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Israel 'breaching UN convention on children's rights'

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Israeli military law is applied to Palestinian children detained in the West Bank

A UK government-backed report has accused Israel's security forces of regularly breaching the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC).

A delegation of senior lawyers visited Israel and West Bank and analysed the effects of Israel's military judicial system on Palestinian children.

They found "undisputed facts" showed six UNCRC articles had been breached.

The lawyers urged Israel to address differences in the way Israeli and Palestinian children were treated.

Israeli military law is applied to Palestinian children detained by the Israeli authorities in the West Bank because it is under military occupation.

However, Israeli children - including those living in Jewish settlements on occupied land in the West Bank, which are considered illegal under international law - are subject to Israeli criminal and civilian law.

Currently, the maximum period an Israeli child can be detained without charge is 40 days. For a Palestinian child the period is 188 days.

'Spiral of injustice''

The nine British lawyers, including leading barristers, said much of the reluctance to treat Palestinian children in conformity with international norms stemmed "from a belief, which was advanced to us by a military prosecutor, that every Palestinian child is a 'potential terrorist'".

Their report, Children in Military Custody, said such a stance seemed "to be the starting point of a spiral of injustice, and one which only Israel, as the occupying power in the West Bank, can reverse".

They said "certain undisputed facts" compelled them to conclude that Israel was in breach of articles 2 (discrimination), 3 (child's best interests), 37 (premature resort to detention), 37 (non-separation from adults), 37 (prompt access to lawyers) and 40 (use of shackles).

Israel is a signatory to the UNCRC and the International Court of Justice ruled in 2004 that it was applicable to children living in the West Bank.

Articles 76 and 65 of the 4th Geneva Convention were also found to have been breached, according to the report, which was funded by the UK Foreign Office.

The first prohibits detainees from being transported to the country of the authority which has detained them. In this case, Palestinian children were found to have been transported from the West Bank into Israel.

The second states that any penal laws applied to prisoners in an occupied land must be translated into their own language. The lawyers said the Israeli authorities failed to translate Military Order 1676 from Hebrew into Arabic.

Israel is a party to the Geneva Conventions, and bound by its obligations.But its government argues that the international conventions relating to occupied land do not apply to the Palestinian territories because they were not under the legitimate sovereignty of any state when they were captured during the 1967 Middle East war.

The British lawyers recommended that international law be fully applied to children in the West Bank; that the best interests of the child be the first consideration of the Israeli legal, military and policing institutions; and that Israel and Palestinian children be dealt with on "an equal footing".

The Israeli embassy in London said it appreciated the delegation's efforts to "to learn about the challenges involved in dealing with minors involved in acts of militancy and violence".

"Regrettably, such activities continue to be encouraged by official Palestinian textbooks and television programmes which glorify terrorism and suicide terrorists," it told the Guardian newspaper.

"As a result under-18 year olds are frequently involved in lethal acts... with the Palestinian Authority unable or unwilling to meet its obligation to investigate and prosecute these offences, Israel has no choice but to do so itself."

Israel would study the recommendations "as part of its ongoing efforts to find the most appropriate balance between preventing violence and treating perpetrators with humanity", the embassy added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-18608900

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Yeah, we really needed this thread, because the last one, yesterday, was so productive.

And it's totally shocking that a group of 9 human rights lawyers would criticize a country in the middle of an armed conflict over their human rights record.

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The west should really stop wasting it's time in the hornet's nest of the Middle East. Its brought nothing but trouble back to the west and only aggravated many of the problems there.

Let them sort it out amongst themselves. And no, Israel or Palestine is not going to become the next Nazi Germany so you can rest easy.

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Yeah, we really needed this thread, because the last one, yesterday, was so productive.

And it's totally shocking that a group of 9 human rights lawyers would criticize a country in the middle of an armed conflict oppressive occupation over their human rights record.

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Israel is supposed to be the "better" of the two in this conflict, at least that's what the propaganda I'm inundated with tells me, but Israel keeps doing s*** like this, so whatever happens to them, I'm not in the slightest bit concerned, furthermore, they don't deserve any help.

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Israel is supposed to be the "better" of the two in this conflict, at least that's what the propaganda I'm inundated with tells me, but Israel keeps doing s*** like this, so whatever happens to them, I'm not in the slightest bit concerned, furthermore, they don't deserve any help.

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So the other things your are told are propaganda and this is not? I'm just curious as to which other things you refer to and how they differ from this article. Can you post any links or references? Thanks I'm just interested in seeing how you interpret one thing as propaganda and another as not.

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I wonder how I (or you guys too) would've been as a child if I was living in Palestine or Israel. Would I be angry enough to throw stones at Israeli or Palestinian soldiers every chance I got? Would I be angry enough to do anything it took to hurt Israel? Or to hurt Palestine? Combining a child's innocence with anger does not sound too good, easiest to influence imo. I can't imagine the level of anger and hurt these kids experience on both sides of the border, but how nice of us to talk about them from behind our computers, because we totes get it ...

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I have seen a few videos of children helping to set IEDs. One child was almost killed alongside those he was helping in an air strike. It's part of the norm for many militias to start training early. Are child soldiers in Africa who rape burn pillage and murder families innocent as well? That's the reality of our world is that extremists train their children early. That's why they grow up extremist.

Do a quick search if you're interested:

http://www.ynetnews....3999455,00.html

http://www.liveleak....=791_1242954121

There is tons like that as well as videos of children being trained/helping set IEDs. I can look those up later if you really need but it's out there.

Another thing that I find amusing is how radical the people who are often against Israel are. They think nothing of Nazi comparisons or offer brilliant solutions such as 'nuke Israel. Just as radical as the supposedly radicals they are against.

In this article(Warning if you read the comments there is harsh language):

http://www.liveleak....=e93_1339336840

Someone posted a similar thread. And a convenient picture of a Palestinian child being carried off by Israelis. With no mention of what is actually taking place in the picture.

Kind of like a previous thread where someone posted pictures of Israelis with guns pointed at civilians yet when closely examined I found the camera angles made it look more so this way.

That's true propaganda. When you post something that's intended as one thing but doesn't mean it or doesn't actually represent that depiction.

Here's another set of interesting and related photos:

http://www.liveleak....=b65_1339589565

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I have seen a few videos of children helping to set IEDs. One child was almost killed alongside those he was helping in an air strike. It's part of the norm for many militias to start training early. Are child soldiers in Africa who rape burn pillage and murder families innocent as well? That's the reality of our world is that extremists train their children early. That's why they grow up extremist.

Do a quick search if you're interested:

http://www.ynetnews....3999455,00.html

http://www.liveleak....=791_1242954121

There is tons like that as well as videos of children being trained/helping set IEDs. I can look those up later if you really need but it's out there.

Another thing that I find amusing is how radical the people who are often against Israel are. They think nothing of Nazi comparisons or offer brilliant solutions such as 'nuke Israel. Just as radical as the supposedly radicals they are against.

In this article(Warning if you read the comments there is harsh language):

http://www.liveleak....=e93_1339336840

Someone posted a similar thread. And a convenient picture of a Palestinian child being carried off by Israelis. With no mention of what is actually taking place in the picture.

Kind of like a previous thread where someone posted pictures of Israelis with guns pointed at civilians yet when closely examined I found the camera angles made it look more so this way.

That's true propaganda. When you post something that's intended as one thing but doesn't mean it or doesn't actually represent that depiction.

Here's another set of interesting and related photos:

http://www.liveleak....=b65_1339589565

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Those pictures of children with toy guns and guns cut out from cardboard were actually quite cute, when compared to say...

But yeah we know, the angles of the cameras in the above videos 'only make it look like such'.

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UK Parliment:

REPORT OF INQUIRY INTO PALESTINIAN CHILDREN IN ISRAELI MILITARY CUSTODY

That this House welcomes the publication of the report Children in Military Custody published on 26 June 2012 following the independent inquiry by senior UK lawyers into the treatment of Palestinian children under Israeli military law, which has found Israel to be in breach of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child on at least six counts and of the Fourth Geneva Convention on at least two counts; thanks the Rt Hon Sir Stephen Sedley, the Rt Hon the Baroness Patricia Scotland of Asthal QC, Frances Oldham QC, Marianna Hildyard QC, Judy Khan QC, Jayne Harrill, Jude Lanchin, Greg Davies and Marc Mason for their thoroughness; and, in welcoming HM Government support for the inquiry through the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, asks the Foreign Secretary to make a statement to the House setting out his proposals for persuading Israel to comply in practice with international law relating to the treatment of children.

Currently 34 signees ranging from; Conservative,Green,Liberal Democrats,Labour,Plaid Cymru, Social and Democrat Liberals

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/business-papers/commons/early-day-motions/edm-detail1/?session=2012-13&edmnumber=280&orderby=Party&orderdirection=Asc

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