Edlerberry Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 watch Weber sign with the Oilers next offseason and the BC boy continue to troll the Canuck fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 MG said he was gonna ben aggressive and BOLD GM .... have yet to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Yeah well did you hear him yesterday? The entire interveiw? I think He said he doesn't anticipate being that busy on July 1st or something like that, could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's the case I bet He's gunna try to improve through trade but he is gunna wait too long and then we will be stuck with the same/similar roster. And if Florida signs Brodeur then any hope of getting a good return for Luongo can be lost, we will pretty much have to accept Toronto's offer, hopefully Marty remains a devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The thing is, I think when MG lucked on Ehrhoff a couple of season ago due to salary dump by SJ, he feels like theres always gonna be that kinda deal sometime in the off season again. My concern is what you just pointed out, Toronto already said the price is too high leaving the Panthers as our only trade partner right now, they have the advantage in negotiations. If Tallon decides he wants a young cheap goaltender and trade for Bernier, we might be looking at the most expensive goaltending tandem in Canuck history lol. Being patient is always good, but being too patient, we could be seeing some great deals like Neal and Niskaken for Goligoski a few years ago pass us by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnInconvenienceBrah Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 MG said he was gonna ben aggressive and BOLD GM .... have yet to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Whoa... Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. First things first- Re-sign Salo! Second- Get top 4 Defencemen (Suter, Carle, Garrison) Third- Get top 6 Forward (Parise, Doan, Wolski) Fourth- Fill bottom 6 holes: C (McClement, Guastad) RW (Burish, Parros) Fifth- Get Depth on Forwards and Defencemen (Carkner, Prust, Konopka, Stapleton) Sixth- Sign RFA's (Weise, Lack) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_in_AB Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 CDCLand is in shock as word of Justin Schultz going to the Oilers spreads across the hockey world. We wanted the homegrown talent, but Schultz wanted more playing time. Honestly, this kid was unproven and may prove to be more of a bust than anything. In my opinion the Canucks are still going to make a defensive acquistion and if I am right, it will be a major one. Gillis cleared space on the blueline and will still need to fill it. Word is Gillis is much more concerned about making the blueline larger and harder to get through for this season. Schultz is a PP specialist and has a good shot, but as far as the other side of the coin, Schultz is not a very physical defenseman. He is not intimidating in any way from a checking standpoint. All I can say (about what I've heard) is that Dan Hamhuis is directly involved in the decision of this individual to consider moving home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.Tallhouse Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Does anyone know the what the status/possibility of acquiring Weber and or Doan is? those are two players that would shake up our roster considerably!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw604 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Garrisons good but not great. He's a left sided dman and played well because of campbells ability to skate and distribute the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhard Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Pretty sure the only reason the canucks were interested in schultz was because he was a promising prospect, and he was free. And if Gillis likes anything, it's assets. He would have done very little to help the team NOW, and that's why he wouldn't get big minutes here. Worth acquiring when he doesn't cost you anything, but not what we really need. It's almost a good thing that he went to Edmonton, because we're not tying up funds on a prospect, that we could be spending on someone who can actually contribute to the team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 so basically hamhuis is from b.c...he came to the canucks....therefore he will convice another b.c boy to come play for canucks... intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I think Matt Carle would be the best option on D via free agency, he can play the right side and puts up a fair amount of points. He is mostly a plus player, I say let's sign him at 4.2 mil for 3 seasons. Garrison is sort of unproven... He did have a good season 11/12, but other than that it's still sort of a gamble. Apparently he wants big money, he is not worth 5 mil at this point imo. If he would sign for 3.3 mil, then I might consider it a good investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not a big deal. I'm not too upset we missed out on Schultz. I'd rather have some experienced defencemen. Hopefully Gillis can land Garrison for a decent price. Schultz took the easy way out. Just like how he used a loophole to get what he wants, he's going to Edmonton so the big minutes and opportunities will be handed to him on a silver platter. All these young guys are good, but unless they get some real players to lead them they'll still be stuck at the bottom. Anyway I hope we can get Garrison. Our defence will look something like this: Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Garrison Ballard - Salo Alberts/Tanev I think Salo will be re-signed. I think Salo and Tanev will work out some sort of rotation to keep Salo healthy and fresh. I'd rather trade Ballard and try to find someone cheaper. I'd like to go after Doug Murray for the bottom pair. I think we need some physicality in our backend and someone who can physically handle big forwards. Or trade Ballard and sign a guy like Allen. But if we land Garrison and re-sign Salo we should be good for now. Definitely not opposed to signing one of Carle,Allen, Garrison, etc. We have a hole on D next to Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 If you dont re-sign Salo, Garrison makes sense to me. 2knd pairing D who can step up or run a PP. He also makes sense because he would be young, big and signed long term. That would be great insurance against not signing Edler (or Weber). But our #1 need is a puck rushing defender who can break pressure. And our #1 A need is the big mean shut down guy (presumeably right handed because we have depth on the left side). Neither is really more important than the other and both are missing, but Garrison does not plug either hole? Garrison qualifies as a BPA and nothing more. He does make us better but still leaves us looking for what we truly need. For similar money, it may be possible to land a guy with similar attributes to Schultz, but much further along in his development, also a homegrown guy, but 35 lbs more on his frame, and despite being left-handed is used to playing on the right side (beside Campbell). People are quick to assume Garrison's production was generated by Campbell, but really, the Panthers are a low scoring team, and the Canucks are not exactly chopped liver. "Garrison’s strengths are his exceptional skating ability and passing touch.He has good on-ice awareness and transitional capability. Garrison is adept at contributing to offensive without sacrificing defensive responsibility. Lacks an element of consistent physical play but it’s an area he’s working to improve. Garrison appears very comfortable on the ice and is a free-wheeling defender whose strength is generating scoring chances. He has terrific hockey sense and is an ideal power-play quarterback." HF. Schultz may not have been the best quarterback option on the market if that is what the Canucks were looking for (as opposed to a big mean right handed shutdown guy). They could potentially add both if they move someone or if we can't sign Salo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 When Gillis took the reins he promptly dropped the pursuit of Brunnstrom, most here vilified him for it. Now the descision looks pretty good I'd say. Schultz was intereseting because of his age, we didn't actually need him at this time. I think we lost him because we didn't offer a oneway contract, I see this far more plausible than minutes demanded etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAN_FAN_MATT Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I really hoped that Shultz would sign here, and that the fact the Canucks presented the best opprotunity to win now, out weighed his desire for promised ice time. It was obvious to us all that he wouldn't get promised ice time playing for the Canucks, and in the end it was ice time that mattered to him more. I guess that speaks volumes about this players character. I'm now hoping the Canucks can somehow pry Erik Gudbranson from the Panthers, but that looks highly unlikely. The Canucks haven't had a blue chip (top 2 projected) prospect defenseman since the late Luc Bourdon, and IMO our crop of defensive prospects really isn't very deep at all. Tavev, Sauve, Connauton are our only remaining prospects with a realistic chance of being NHL regulars, but neither of those prospects have the potential to be a top 2, let alone a top 4 regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAN_FAN_MATT Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 When Gillis took the reins he promptly dropped the pursuit of Brunnstrom, most here vilified him for it. Now the descision looks pretty good I'd say. Schultz was intereseting because of his age, we didn't actually need him at this time. I think we lost him because we didn't offer a oneway contract, I see this far more plausible than minutes demanded etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 CDCLand is in shock as word of Justin Schultz going to the Oilers spreads across the hockey world. We wanted the homegrown talent, but Schultz wanted more playing time. Honestly, this kid was unproven and may prove to be more of a bust than anything. In my opinion the Canucks are still going to make a defensive acquistion and if I am right, it will be a major one. Gillis cleared space on the blueline and will still need to fill it. Word is Gillis is much more concerned about making the blueline larger and harder to get through for this season. Schultz is a PP specialist and has a good shot, but as far as the other side of the coin, Schultz is not a very physical defenseman. He is not intimidating in any way from a checking standpoint. All I can say (about what I've heard) is that Dan Hamhuis is directly involved in the decision of this individual to consider moving home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I really hoped that Shultz would sign here, and that the fact the Canucks presented the best opprotunity to win now, out weighed his desire for promised ice time. It was obvious to us all that he wouldn't get promised ice time playing for the Canucks, and in the end it was ice time that mattered to him more. I guess that speaks volumes about this players character. I'm now hoping the Canucks can somehow pry Erik Gudbranson from the Panthers, but that looks highly unlikely. The Canucks haven't had a blue chip (top 2 projected) prospect defenseman since the late Luc Bourdon, and IMO our crop of defensive prospects really isn't very deep at all. Tavev, Sauve, Connauton are our only remaining prospects with a realistic chance of being NHL regulars, but neither of those prospects have the potential to be a top 2, let alone a top 4 regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 There's still Garrison and Carle who will help us more right now than Schultz. I'm still not sold on Schultz, no experience whatsoever is not how you win a Cup. Carle has been on several deep cup runs and Garrison is the exact sort of player we need to complement all our puck movers. Guys like Vandemeer are still out there for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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