Aloha_Vancouver Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 With FA signings at an all time high, Doan is guaranteed to get more than Ryans 5.1M salary that's a steal for a upward trending star who hasn't even entered his prime. His stats are way higher than Doans anyways. In light of the Nash trade, our situation looks even better. Rick Nash, 5-time all-star, went for some spare parts. The most probable suitors for Ryan have been BUF, NYR, and PHI but both NYR and have made recent acquisitions that prevent them for making a bid at Ryan leaving only BUF. Hopefully like the Rangers, they'll lowball and be patient making it easier for us to step in and take him To Anaheim: Edler, Raymond, 1st To Vancouver: Ryan+ Defenseman? Im really not sure what is fair but that's just what I've been thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why would Anaheim want a UFA defenceman for Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanEberle Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ya theres no way they would take a pending UFA in return for a good value locked up forward. David Booth would probably have to be going the other way to replace Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulKariyaALH Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 A ufa in 1 year, a plug, and a late 1st for Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1994_fan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Crazy idea here for getting Bobby Ryan - Schroeder, Higgins, Hansen & wait for it... Raymond! Out of this bunch they (Ducks) can make a decent 3rd line and make for the loss in goals and may have a 2nd liner in Schroeder. OH, and PS: The Weber deal just failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloha_Vancouver Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 You make it sound like Edler is therefore worthless in a trade just because his contract is expiring. Well I guess Ryan might be heading to PHI but Anaheim needs help on the blue line. Since everyone thinks that idea is so terrible (WARNING: This might be worse). What if it were To Anaheim: Edler Luongo 1st To Vancouver: Hiller Ryan Maybe we could pawn Hiller to TOR in exchange for some pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanEberle Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Edler is not worthless in a trade, but Anaheim isn't exactly the most desirable team to play for (Although its not bad). If you were Edler would you want to sign a long term deal there? If Anaheim is willing to overpay to keep him there then he may stay, otherwise I would see him testing the UFA waters after next season (Pending CBA agreement). In this case Anaheim loses Ryan and Edler and only keeps Raymond and a late first rounder. The risk is too high versus the potential payoff, so thats why Anaheim doesn't do it. I would say your second proposal is an over payment by us. Edler is roughly equal Ryan if not slightly less. And Luongo and a 1st is worth more then Hiller IMO. I wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloha_Vancouver Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Edler is not worthless in a trade, but Anaheim isn't exactly the most desirable team to play for (Although its not bad). If you were Edler would you want to sign a long term deal there? If Anaheim is willing to overpay to keep him there then he may stay, otherwise I would see him testing the UFA waters after next season (Pending CBA agreement). In this case Anaheim loses Ryan and Edler and only keeps Raymond and a late first rounder. The risk is too high versus the potential payoff, so thats why Anaheim doesn't do it. I would say your second proposal is an over payment by us. Edler is roughly equal Ryan if not slightly less. And Luongo and a 1st is worth more then Hiller IMO. I wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkin Cookies Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 i think ryan is going to go to philly now cause the weber deal didnt work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 No way we get rid of Edler. With a top 4 of Hamhuis,Edler,Bieksa and Garrison along with blossoming prospects in Tanev and K-Conn We have one of the best defences in the league if not the best. IMHO the best possible outcome out of this off-season would be to sign Doan, as well as trade Luongo to Florida for Weiss+. Top 9: Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Booth-Kesler-Doan Higgins-Weiss-Hansen Looks pretty solid to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerClown Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I really doubt he would want to go there,but I actually see Columbus as a good trade partner for Anaheim.They could offer up a prospect D which they have a few,One of their Centers maybe Brassard they have three first round picks plus whatever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Anaheim wouldn't accept, and quite frankly I'd rather not trade Elder for Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I had a similar proposal 2 years ago. /topic/281944-proposal-raymond-bieksa-2nd-round-pick-for-bobby-ryan/page__hl__%2Bproposal+-+%2Bvan+%2B%2B+%2Bana">http://forum.canucks.com/topic/281944-proposal-raymond-bieksa-2nd-round-pick-for-bobby-ryan/page__hl__%2Bproposal+-+%2Bvan+%2B%2B+%2Bana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck919191 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 No way we get rid of Edler. With a top 4 of Hamhuis,Edler,Bieksa and Garrison along with blossoming prospects in Tanev and K-Conn We have one of the best defences in the league if not the best. IMHO the best possible outcome out of this off-season would be to sign Doan, as well as trade Luongo to Florida for Weiss+. Top 9: Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Booth-Kesler-Doan Higgins-Weiss-Hansen Looks pretty solid to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Vancouver Ryan Franson Anaheim 1st 2013 Anaheim Luongo Booth Toronto 1st 2013 Toronto Hiller Vancouver 2nd 2013 In this deal I feel that everyone's return is proportional to what they give up. Toronto get's their number 1 guy, Anaheim get's the Top 10 guy they've been missing since Giguere (Hiller has been up and down for them), Canucks get the bruising power forward that can play now and don't have to give up Edler. I could see this as a reality should Vancouver fail to sign Doan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Van and Anaheim dont really make sense as trading partners. Canucks dont really have the assets to acquire a top line winger like Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Elder + 2nd for hartnall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Anahiem would ask for Kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Ducks want more than that for Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_dynasty Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I think PHI will be going hard after Ryan if he's available. Especially since they lost out on Suter and Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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