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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19142882

Unidentified gunmen have attacked a checkpoint on the Egyptian-Israeli border, killing at least 15 Egyptian policemen, officials say.

Israel said the heavily armed attackers, in two vehicles, then tried to smash their way across the border.

One vehicle apparently blew up at the North Sinai crossing, while the other was destroyed by the Israeli air force.

It is not clear who carried out the raid. Egyptian state television blamed Islamist militants.

The country's state news agency quoted a top security official who said the gunmen were "jihadists" who had infiltrated from the Gaza Strip.

Israel's defence minister Ehud Barak said his country's security forces had "thwarted an attack that could have injured many".

"The militants' attack methods again raise the need for determined Egyptian action to enforce security and prevent terror in the Sinai," he said in a statement.

Egypt's President Mohammed Mursi held an emergency meeting with military and security officials after the attack.

He condemned what he called a "cowardly" attack and said Egpyt would retake control of the Sinai.

"The [security] forces will take full control of these regions," the president said in a televised address.

Analysts say the security situation in the area has deteriorated following the fall of Hosni Mubarak last year.

In an earlier statement, he urged the authorities to take measures to "confront this serious challenge to Egyptian sovereignty and to protect Sinai from all armed groups".

At least seven other Egyptian policemen were wounded in the attack, security officials said. It is unclear how many militants were involved or how many were killed.

Security fears

Egyptian and Israeli forces say they are searching for any other gunmen who may have escaped. Israeli civilians in the area have been told to stay inside their homes.

The Rafah border crossing with the Gaza Strip has shut indefinitely, Egyptian state television says.

The attack on the border post close to Gaza and Israel took place around sunset, just as the guards had stopped work for the traditional iftar meal, which breaks the daily fast during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Masked gunmen dressed as bedouin opened fire on police with guns and rocket-propelled grenades before driving off with an armoured vehicle, Egyptian state television said.

In Israel a military spokeswoman said two vehicles had been taken at its Kerem Shalom crossing.

The BBC's Yolande Knell in Cairo says the attack will be seen as more worrying evidence that Islamist militants have a firm foothold in the restive Northern Sinai region.

They have been blamed for several rocket attacks against Israel and a cross-border raid that killed nine Israelis last year.

Recently there have also been repeated attacks on the pipeline that exports gas to Israel and Jordan. Last month two Egyptian soldiers were shot dead.

Egypt's military sent extra tanks and troops into the Sinai last year. The terms had to be agreed with Israel under the terms of the 1979 peace treaty between the two countries, our correspondent says.

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Conveniently, many off topic posters, who manage to post every political tidbit on CDC. Often keep pro Israeli stories off the menu. As it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. I have grown a little tired of the one sided debate for awhile now, which is why I decided to start bringing these events to the forums attention.

Im not in love with IsraelI and i don't know or have ever met an Israeli. But mainly I'm sick of people who continue to ignore the fact, that Israel is a country surrounded by people who wish to destroy it. This is just another incident, which justifies the technology made available to Israel to defend itself. Had these terrorists managed to successfully infiltrate Israel the results would have been predictably tragic.

This post is only to discuss the story at hand. If you don't like the story please don't attempt to derail the thread. If you wish to theorize that the Israelis were somehow behind this feel free. My thoughts are that this is an attempt to create hostilities between Egypt and Israel. The fact that this mission failed makes it less news worthy, then if it had succeeded. Which is why I think it should be discussed because eventually one of these attacks may actually succeed. As the previous bus attack against Israeli tourists.

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Calling people out, followed by "This post is only to discuss the story at hand". This is like the time you started a thread about the Israeli bus being blown up. Trying to stir another crap thread? Shameful and transparent.

Good luck!

PS. Ever seen a lawyer who doesn't know the difference between "then" and "than"? :lol:

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Calling people out, followed by "This post is only to discuss the story at hand". This is like the time you started a thread about the Israeli bus being blown up. Trying to stir another crap thread? Shameful and transparent.

Good luck!

PS. Ever seen a lawyer who doesn't know the difference between "then" and "than"? :lol:

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Conveniently, many off topic posters, who manage to post every political tidbit on CDC. Often keep pro Israeli stories off the menu. As it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. I have grown a little tired of the one sided debate for awhile now, which is why I decided to start bringing these events to the forums attention.

Im not in love with IsraelI and i don't know or have ever met an Israeli. But mainly I'm sick of people who continue to ignore the fact, that Israel is a country surrounded by people who wish to destroy it. This is just another incident, which justifies the technology made available to Israel to defend itself. Had these terrorists managed to successfully infiltrate Israel the results would have been predictably tragic.

This post is only to discuss the story at hand. If you don't like the story please don't attempt to derail the thread. If you wish to theorize that the Israelis were somehow behind this feel free. My thoughts are that this is an attempt to create hostilities between Egypt and Israel. The fact that this mission failed makes it less news worthy, then if it had succeeded. Which is why I think it should be discussed because eventually one of these attacks may actually succeed. As the previous bus attack against Israeli tourists.

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What really wouldn't surprise me is if you wind up banned, even less surprising, if you've been banned already before and are perhaps asking for another with this incessant barrage of personal attacks in most threads in OT I see you post in.

I guarantee if you were off these forums suddenly discussion quality overall is far less vitriolic.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-19142882

Unidentified gunmen have attacked a checkpoint on the Egyptian-Israeli border, killing at least 15 Egyptian policemen, officials say.

Israel said the heavily armed attackers, in two vehicles, then tried to smash their way across the border.

One vehicle apparently blew up at the North Sinai crossing, while the other was destroyed by the Israeli air force.

It is not clear who carried out the raid. Egyptian state television blamed Islamist militants.

The country's state news agency quoted a top security official who said the gunmen were "jihadists" who had infiltrated from the Gaza Strip.

Israel's defence minister Ehud Barak said his country's security forces had "thwarted an attack that could have injured many".

"The militants' attack methods again raise the need for determined Egyptian action to enforce security and prevent terror in the Sinai," he said in a statement.

Egypt's President Mohammed Mursi held an emergency meeting with military and security officials after the attack.

He condemned what he called a "cowardly" attack and said Egpyt would retake control of the Sinai.

"The [security] forces will take full control of these regions," the president said in a televised address.

Analysts say the security situation in the area has deteriorated following the fall of Hosni Mubarak last year.

In an earlier statement, he urged the authorities to take measures to "confront this serious challenge to Egyptian sovereignty and to protect Sinai from all armed groups".

At least seven other Egyptian policemen were wounded in the attack, security officials said. It is unclear how many militants were involved or how many were killed.

Security fears

Egyptian and Israeli forces say they are searching for any other gunmen who may have escaped. Israeli civilians in the area have been told to stay inside their homes.

The Rafah border crossing with the Gaza Strip has shut indefinitely, Egyptian state television says.

The attack on the border post close to Gaza and Israel took place around sunset, just as the guards had stopped work for the traditional iftar meal, which breaks the daily fast during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

Masked gunmen dressed as bedouin opened fire on police with guns and rocket-propelled grenades before driving off with an armoured vehicle, Egyptian state television said.

In Israel a military spokeswoman said two vehicles had been taken at its Kerem Shalom crossing.

The BBC's Yolande Knell in Cairo says the attack will be seen as more worrying evidence that Islamist militants have a firm foothold in the restive Northern Sinai region.

They have been blamed for several rocket attacks against Israel and a cross-border raid that killed nine Israelis last year.

Recently there have also been repeated attacks on the pipeline that exports gas to Israel and Jordan. Last month two Egyptian soldiers were shot dead.

Egypt's military sent extra tanks and troops into the Sinai last year. The terms had to be agreed with Israel under the terms of the 1979 peace treaty between the two countries, our correspondent says.

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Conveniently, many off topic posters, who manage to post every political tidbit on CDC. Often keep pro Israeli stories off the menu. As it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. I have grown a little tired of the one sided debate for awhile now, which is why I decided to start bringing these events to the forums attention.

Im not in love with IsraelI and i don't know or have ever met an Israeli. But mainly I'm sick of people who continue to ignore the fact, that Israel is a country surrounded by people who wish to destroy it. This is just another incident, which justifies the technology made available to Israel to defend itself. Had these terrorists managed to successfully infiltrate Israel the results would have been predictably tragic.

This post is only to discuss the story at hand. If you don't like the story please don't attempt to derail the thread. If you wish to theorize that the Israelis were somehow behind this feel free. My thoughts are that this is an attempt to create hostilities between Egypt and Israel. The fact that this mission failed makes it less news worthy, then if it had succeeded. Which is why I think it should be discussed because eventually one of these attacks may actually succeed. As the previous bus attack against Israeli tourists.

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I'm not your buddy and I could really care less about you being 'the e-judge'. Measuring everyone's intelligence against your own 'superior intellect'. Well according to yourself anyway. I understand you may have not enjoyed my previous comments, but it's no reason to come here and try to provoke an arguement.

Now if you're interested in discussing the topic feel free.

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Well it's an issue that's far too complicated for anyone to give a clear answer on. A short one anyhow and I'm not interested in writing a thesis in order to try and prove anything. But what I will add is that if people dwell on the past we won't go anywhere. The best thing to do IMO is deal with the present and move on. Need to forget old grudges. Won't happen though.

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I don't think the conflict can be resolved. Maybe in order to resolve it the only way would be not to ignore the cause, but to accept it. That everyone had a part to play and were equally as bad. Then move on.

Unfortunately the mere existence of Israel is unacceptable to many. Although it now exists so there are two choices. Keep fighting and waste yours and everyone else's life. Or accept it exists and move on.

I'm a little busy sorry for the long wait on this post. Getting a few calls and I'm on my iPhone. Not the ideal situation to discuss such a complicated issue.

Hopefully this incident leads to better cooperation between Israel and Egypt. That would at least be a start. It seems Egypt has important internal matters to attend to anyway.

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