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You have to let a company grow on its own.

TNA just doesn't have the fanbase to do an event in a size arena Wrestlemania does. Unfortunately thats the way it is. So many fickle WWE lifers don't give TNA a chance despite it being a much better program than WWE. TNA is growing though and the product itself is very good and they are making some good decisions and doing alot of good things.

TNA has only been around 11 years, you can't really compare the two as an enterprise right now.

thats what im saying, that they don't really have the fan base to do so, and they're still stuck and not really growing. honestly, WWE's main fan base are casual fans or fans who stayed loyal, thick and thin because there's history, and just families who take their kids to see john cena, randy orton and all these guys. not really gonna have a family all riled up saying, "let's go see aces and eights!"

have to understand that no one really takes pro wrestling seriously anymore and the casual fan tunes in to see production, and just the general population knows what wwe is, even if they aren't a wrestling fan. so TNA isn't going to pull away WWE's casual fan base with their minor league set up when they can watch big time WWE production. that's why the E isn't so focused on wrestling anymore-- and more on looking good on TV. if you're watching wwe for "real" wrestling, then you're watching the wrong product at this point, but fans tune in and show up to the arenas because being in a sell out crowd has a better atmosphere than being in glorified school gym that is the impact zone, and that's the reason why no one wants to give it a chance. because whatever tna does, they've seen it already and it just looks so cheap when they do it. they had something going for them back in 2005-2006

kurt angle is pushing on 45 years old and jeff has milage, same with AJ styles. they don't have too many guys who are up and coming and just living off of what WWE throws away. can't really call all of those guys top stars anymore just by their name. in time, no one will remember who aj styles was. no one will remember who samoa joe was, guys who were there from the beginning. then you have hogan and bischoff and now brooke and ****

the E adapted to a changing of the times. it's more modern, and more focused on entertainment and not so much on wrestling. it's pretty much like the cirque du soliel if you wanna see it that way. it's is where the big boys play, it's where the big boys will stay and it's where up and coming guys hope to be at

i understand that tna is growing but some people who go on a limb and say tna is "better than wwe" is a matter of opinion. i don't think so, so we are at an impasse. argument over at this point.

all i'm stating is how people seem to think that if tna is so much better, and so much richer than wwe, then why haven't they done something about it. where are the TV deals and selling out arenas? where's the big TNA star that people will pay to see? no excuses, no "it's only been around for 10 years"-- if some people want to go out and say tna is better than wwe, then i'm going to voice my opinion on why that isn't so.

i'm 24 years old now and i'm more of a casual fan at this point. i grew up a wwe kid, is the standard for my entertainment (oh boy, this'll be fun), i gave tna a chance to get me interested, they blew it, then they blew it again with the aces and 8's angle. i'll always tune in to raw on mondays, but if there's a hockey game on, i will switch the channel, because i just don't care anymore. i'm just living in the now

anyways, if anyone wants to hear austin's podcast he's doing now, it's hya

http://www.podcastone.com/program?action=viewProgram&programID=436

the second show with hbk is worth a listen. highly enjoyed it and loved when austin called shawn out for being a dick back in the day, they laughed about it, and the feelings shawn had heading in to wrestlemania 14

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thats what im saying, that they don't really have the fan base to do so, and they're still stuck and not really growing. honestly, WWE's main fan base are casual fans or fans who stayed loyal, thick and thin because there's history, and just families who take their kids to see john cena, randy orton and all these guys. not really gonna have a family all riled up saying, "let's go see aces and eights!"

have to understand that no one really takes pro wrestling seriously anymore and the casual fan tunes in to see production, and just the general population knows what wwe is, even if they aren't a wrestling fan. so TNA isn't going to pull away WWE's casual fan base with their minor league set up when they can watch big time WWE production. that's why the E isn't so focused on wrestling anymore-- and more on looking good on TV. if you're watching wwe for "real" wrestling, then you're watching the wrong product at this point, but fans tune in and show up to the arenas because being in a sell out crowd has a better atmosphere than being in glorified school gym that is the impact zone, and that's the reason why no one wants to give it a chance. because whatever tna does, they've seen it already and it just looks so cheap when they do it. they had something going for them back in 2005-2006

kurt angle is pushing on 45 years old and jeff has milage, same with AJ styles. they don't have too many guys who are up and coming and just living off of what WWE throws away. can't really call all of those guys top stars anymore just by their name. in time, no one will remember who aj styles was. no one will remember who samoa joe was, guys who were there from the beginning. then you have hogan and bischoff and now brooke and ****

the E adapted to a changing of the times. it's more modern, and more focused on entertainment and not so much on wrestling. it's pretty much like the cirque du soliel if you wanna see it that way. it's is where the big boys play, it's where the big boys will stay and it's where up and coming guys hope to be at

i understand that tna is growing but some people who go on a limb and say tna is "better than wwe" is a matter of opinion. i don't think so, so we are at an impasse. argument over at this point.

all i'm stating is how people seem to think that if tna is so much better, and so much richer than wwe, then why haven't they done something about it. where are the TV deals and selling out arenas? where's the big TNA star that people will pay to see? no excuses, no "it's only been around for 10 years"-- if some people want to go out and say tna is better than wwe, then i'm going to voice my opinion on why that isn't so.

i'm 24 years old now and i'm more of a casual fan at this point. i grew up a wwe kid, is the standard for my entertainment (oh boy, this'll be fun), i gave tna a chance to get me interested, they blew it, then they blew it again with the aces and 8's angle. i'll always tune in to raw on mondays, but if there's a hockey game on, i will switch the channel, because i just don't care anymore. i'm just living in the now

anyways, if anyone wants to hear austin's podcast he's doing now, it's hya

http://www.podcaston...m&programID=436

the second show with hbk is worth a listen. highly enjoyed it and loved when austin called shawn out for being a dick back in the day, they laughed about it, and the feelings shawn had heading in to wrestlemania 14

This is why to answer your prior question. TNA isn't as big as WWE. the Wrestling product itself is easily better, but its not as big, its not the big production, so fans of WWE don't give it a fair shake really. IMO, If the true wrestling fans who love wrestling were to watch both shows (from an objective POV) they would find TNA's show easily better. Also add to it WWE has the prestige and the history that makes it appealing bespite how bad the product can be, TNA doesn't have that, thats really where the 10 year thing comes into consideration.

You are right though, WWE has really killed the business and killed alot of the fans, and they have just become casual fans of the WWE, not really paying much attention, so no chance they will want to see TNA, if Wrestling gets hot again then TNA will grow alot IMO, but as long as WWE keeps driving there program into the ground I can't see it happening unfortunatly.

Personally I grew up a huge WWE fan, but the program started to get old and stale, then I saw TNA and was instantly captivated by the X division and the talent they have. If TNA could ever get back to that X division they had before that would help grow the product aswell. I think if people now adays were willing to give TNA a fair shake they would find it good, a long time ago it wasn't that good aside from the talent, but today it is much better and 2 of the last 3 impacts I have watched are honestly better TV wrestling shows than I have seen in WWE since probably 07.

The one thing I am confident in is the talent, TNA's is better, WWE is the bigger product, the better production, but the talent isn't comparable IMO. AJ Styles is the same age as CM Punk, and is only 2 years older than Randy Orton. AJ Styles is still in his prime and has alot still to give like those other two. And I would say those guys have just as much milage as Styles, probably more actually since WWE has done alot more events over the course of there careers, so that milage argument goes both ways.

Angle is old, but so are WWE's top stars, HHH and Taker. Alot of there top talent is old talent (Kane & Mysterio aswell), really the only old top talent in TNA is Angle who is possibly the best wrestler of all time, atleast top 3-5. And then beyond that the talent TNA has in guys like Joe, Roode, Storm, Anderson, Kazarian, Aries, Exc. Talent wise they are better than what WWE has in guys like Shameus, Del Rio, Swagger, Barrett, exc, exc. Talent wise TNA is definetly better, thats the one thing I am 100% confident in without a doubt saying is better than WWE.

I would say at this point WWE has just become so stale. For me personally I tune in to RAW now and then, I watched Raw last week and it wasn't even close to the entertainment I saw in TNA's show yesterday. The crowd TNA while not as big is still very good, better than the RAW crowd IMO cause unlike the RAW crowd where they chant "Same Old S**t" among other things, the TNA crowd is very much focused on the production at hand and captivated by it.

I really wish WWE would step up, as I was once a huge huge fan, but right now I enjoy TNA more week to week for everything, The Wrestling, the Talent, the Storyline and the Entertainment value.

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"the E adapted to the change of the Times"

Yeah I mean changing from a billion dollar company to a multi-million dollar company, halfing the ratings, and struggling to sell out arenas is a great idea right? Also, please remind me how Wembley is a glorified high school gym? You can argue what you want about the people that wrestle for TNA but the fact is the roster is simply much better than WWE's is. It's only going to better with the X-Division resurgence since WWE wont take a chance on smaller guys. It's baffling to even argue that WWE's a better product, they put out a deplorable show for their marquee event. Sure WWE's production is much better but TNA will get to that level once they gain the experience, you can't expect a 10 year old hockey player to outplay someone much older can you? WWE can't even be called wrestling at this point, you have to remember that Vince is insecure and he's been blocking off venues for TNA lately which shows he's clearly noticed their expansion. If TNA keeps growing the way it is now, I have no problem seeing them competing with the WWE in the next 10-15 years which is what they're aiming for. The main problem with WWE now is that it treats it's talent like crap, having them wrestle 300 days a year just isn't going to work out and that's why you see guys like CM Punk and John Cena gassed out at the age of 34 and 35. Traditionally, a wrestler's prime is supposed to be between 37-42 with some guys lasting a bit longer like Angle. In WWE, these guys are hitting their prime between 29-34 and that's really going to hurt the product for them.

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Backstage News on Ziggler becoming World Heavyweight Champion

Dolph Ziggler's World Heavyweight title win was not a result of WWE re-writing Monday's episode of Raw according to PWInsider. Multiple sources confirmed that the plan for several weeks was for Ziggler to cash in and win the WWE World title the day after WrestleMania. This was one of the reasons Ziggler had been losing so many matches, with the belief being it would create interest in those talents chasing him for the belt since "they can beat him." Original plans called for Jack Swagger to carry the title however they fizzled quickly following his DUI arrest.
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WWE and Big Show are being sued.

Former WWE employee Andrew Green is suing Big Show and WWE over an alleged backstage incident at the 2013 Royal Rumble pay-per-view according to Courthouse News Service. In the report, Green claims another WWE producer told him to get an interview with Show after his Rumble match to be posted on the companys website. Green says Show refused to do it until he said it was at the request of Eric Pankowski. Big Show then began using profanely indecent language, saying if he wanted an interview he would give him one. The complaint continued:

Big Show toward Green enraged, shouting obscenities, and waving his fist in Greens face. Big Show then grabbed Green by the collar and throat, striking Green in the face and backing him up against a trunk while declaring You son of a bitch Are you having fun right now Dont even come up to me again I dont give a crap who you are. Show requested a re-tape of the interview saying he would just walk away. Triple H requested a third take but Show said he didnt think he would be able to do it because his emotions in the first shoot had been real. A third interview was shot but Pankowski decided to air the first interview. Green claims he was unable to continue working for WWE after following the incident because he was uncomfortable working around Big Show and other wrestlers. He alleges in the complaint that WWE had previously suspended or terminated Big Shows employment because of his behavior, including his engagement in violent and/or unlawful and/or improper activities outside of the wrestling venue.

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Backstage News on plans for Tag Titles.

This should be where Team Hell No drops Tag Titles and finally splits up and goes their seperate ways.

The Shield can use the Free Bird Rule to defend the Tag Titles. With the exception of Lots of Funk, WWE is lacking face tag teams.

While Triple H and The Undertaker appeared in segments with Kane and Daniel Bryan against The Shield at this week's WWE TV tapings, word is that neither man will be working the feud right now. The current plan is for Kane and Daniel Bryan to defend the WWE Tag Team Titles against two members of The Shield, likely at the Extreme Rules pay-per-view. It's expected this is where Kane and Bryan will drop the titles.
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Why was Lesnar wasn't on Raw.

I'm guessing Lesnar/Rock feud still happens. If it does, are we looking at another year long build to top match at WM.

Assuming it's Cena vs. Ryback at Elimination Rules and since Lesnar is advertised for the PPV, I could see him interferring and attacking both Cena and Ryback. Could set up Cena/Lesnar II or Ryback/Lesnar.

We noted before that The Rock was scheduled to be beatdown by Brock Lesnar on the post-WrestleMania 29 RAW to set up a WrestleMania XXX match, but had to return to Miami because of the injury he suffered. According to those close to the situation, Rock was the one who came up with the angle. Monday afternoon was described as panic because Vince McMahon led the writing team in re-doing the entire show. Lesnar was kept off RAW when word came that Rock wasn't going to be there because it's now the start of his new contract and he has very limited TV dates over the next year. WWE officials didn't want to waste a Rock or Brock appearance without something major happening.

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Twitter War between Fandango and Soccer Team

Fandango didn't receive the same love from the Everton Football Club in Liverpool. They got into a scuffle over the team not playing his theme at a game today. Here is a recap of the exchange on Twitter.

Official Everton@Everton

To those WWE wrestling fans who've requested Fandango's theme for

tomorrow, we won't be playing it at Goodison. #efcmusic #efc

Fandango@WWEFandango

@2nd_time_champ Who's @everton ever beat? Never even heard of em??

Hockey team?

Official Everton@Everton

@WWEFandango Mr Fandango. We've a rich history. We'd be happy to

welcome you to Goodison to tell you more & maybe even play your theme

song.

Fandango@WWEFandango

@Everton Play my music! Then ill think about.

Official Everton@Everton

@WWEFandango We won't be playing it tomorrow, other than in our

FanZone. Our offer to educate you about our great history stands

though.

Fandango@WWEFandango

@Everton Could you play my music for the entire game?

Official Everton@Everton

@WWEFandango We're sure you know the answer to that question. Nice try

though.

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Funny story about a woman outing her husband with her WM29 Sign

This past Sunday at WrestleMania a female fan held a sign throughout the event that let the world know her husband was not only cheating on her, but exactly where he was sitting. The photo appeared on New Jersey 101.5's website and continued to gain attention, getting mixed emotions on the comment section from WWE fans and non-WWE fans alike.
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