Dazzle Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 A strike in Ontario is going to come for sure regarding this Bill 115. I think everyone should read Bill 115 first before automatically hopping on the bandwagon for teachers, because that seems to be the trend for students. I personally think Bill 115 is a bit on the draconian side, but students that support the teachers are actually supporting the wrong people. Students should form bodies that support THEMSELVES because push comes to shove, teachers don't care and neither does the Government. Look at the below picture. (Picture/article taken from: news.ca.msn.com/ontario/brampton/teachers-in-strike-position-nov-25) One protester has a sign that reads: "Teachers Put Students First". No they don't. Teachers in Ontario have not been participating in extracurricular activities with students thus far. (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...r-teachers.html) Though it isn't stated that the teachers must do it, the fact that they pick an aspect of school that has nothing to do with Government illustrates that students are not first. Students are essentially put up as hostages. Bill 115 itself does not really talk about students; it is just regulation for teachers to limit their ability to strike at certain times. But when protesting, teachers love to drag students into this one. http://www.ontla.on.....do?BillID=2665 Here is the link for Bill 115. It is too long to produce in this post but one must read it at least once. Go have a read and don't automatically go and jump at a side. Many students must have Stockholm Syndrome because they are misguidedly supporting them. (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...r-teachers.html, http://www.yorkregio...o-kill-bill-115) From the CBC article: "We feel bad for them, what Dalton McGuinty is doing and the bill. As a result, it's going down to us and missing our extra-curricular and it's making it worse," said Assad Lotf, a student at Ridgemont High School. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Teachers should be classified as an "Essential Service" and therefore be not legally able to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Teachers should be classified as an "Essential Service" and therefore be not legally able to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Fire them all and hire laid off Twinkie makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Teachers should be classified as an "Essential Service" and therefore be not legally able to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The how do you propose they fight unfair legislation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Stay home and learn everything from wikipedia and chat forums. Oh snap, that's what students should do to fight being unfairly uneducated. For the last few decades, all strikes in every sector have nothing to do with actual working conditions or pay and have everything to do with the union/employer power struggle. Half of the teachers won't know what the strike is about and the other half won't agree with it, but will do it anyway. Meanwhile more lawyers are raking it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 All you had to do was get to this part of the Article before knowing you didn't have to read any further. "One protester has a sign that reads: "Teachers Put Students First". No they don't. Teachers in Ontario have not been participating in extracurricular activities with students thus far. (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...r-teachers.html) Though it isn't stated that the teachers must do it, the fact that they pick an aspect of school that has nothing to do with Government illustrates that students are not first. Students are essentially put up as hostages." Extra curricular activities are exactly that. Extras. It's the equivalent of complaining about going out for dinner and then complaining that they don't give you extra side dishes for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Mmmmm... that's good rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Is this for all teachers in Ontario? Is this for post secondary as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'Droid Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 For my brother's school it starts on the 19th and it isn't a strike. The teachers are still going to teach, they just won't do out of the classroom duties, like hall monitoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'Droid Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 All you had to do was get to this part of the Article before knowing you didn't have to read any further. "One protester has a sign that reads: "Teachers Put Students First". No they don't. Teachers in Ontario have not been participating in extracurricular activities with students thus far. (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...r-teachers.html) Though it isn't stated that the teachers must do it, the fact that they pick an aspect of school that has nothing to do with Government illustrates that students are not first. Students are essentially put up as hostages." Extra curricular activities are exactly that. Extras. It's the equivalent of complaining about going out for dinner and then complaining that they don't give you extra side dishes for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'Droid Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Is this for all teachers in Ontario? Is this for post secondary as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 It doesn't include post secondary school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The how do you propose they fight unfair legislation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 blah blah blah. Teachers can't do anything without being blamed that they are holding kids hostage. What possible action could they take to demonstrate that wouldn't have an impact on kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Find replacements, let teachers strike as long as they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 All you had to do was get to this part of the Article before knowing you didn't have to read any further. "One protester has a sign that reads: "Teachers Put Students First". No they don't. Teachers in Ontario have not been participating in extracurricular activities with students thus far. (Source: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...r-teachers.html) Though it isn't stated that the teachers must do it, the fact that they pick an aspect of school that has nothing to do with Government illustrates that students are not first. Students are essentially put up as hostages." Extra curricular activities are exactly that. Extras. It's the equivalent of complaining about going out for dinner and then complaining that they don't give you extra side dishes for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The same way: Border Security Correctional Services Food Inspection Health Care Law Enforcement And many other workers do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 blah blah blah. Teachers can't do anything without being blamed that they are holding kids hostage. What possible action could they take to demonstrate that wouldn't have an impact on kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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