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I do like Petrovic, and while Howden is a bit of step down from Bjugstad, he ain't bad.

Skille is a good 3rd/4th liner but I'd rather the Canucks tried to get Matthias to address the 3C situation.

If there is a pick involved, I'd still prefer a 1st, although I don't see Tallon wanting to give up the 2013 1st, but I would be okay with him handing over the 2014 1st.

regards,

G.

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If we have to trade him to Florida this is what I would be interested in that is a resonable possibility: (* = High priority)

- Quinton Howden. he's a pretty good prospect, nothing expectional but should be a useful 2nd or 3rd liner one day with a useful skillset. Would be a nice addition to our prospect pool.

- *Alex Petrovic. I want this guy in the deal if we trade with FLA, has all the chops of a good two-way top 4 defensmen with some added grit and chippyness.

- Shawn Mattias. I don't want him to be the main piece, because I think he is overrated, but he wouldn't be bad as a throw-in.

- *Early Round picks (1-3). If we could get a 1st that would be amazing with this deep draft, but if we can't I would like to get a 2nd atleast, and maybe a 3rd aswell. There will be some good prospect avaliable when those picks roll around.

- *Jack Skille. More of just a throw in but he would be really nice on the 4th line, an upgrade on Weise forsure IMO, he's big, hits hard. Skates really well, a strong fast skater who can get in on the forecheck quickly and apply pressure, isn't afraid to fight. and also brings more offense than our current other options. But really the size with the skating ability he has is why I want him.

Other lesser notables:

- Sean Bergenheim (We don't need another 2nd/3rd liner, but playoff ability is intriguing)

- Marcel Goc (Not my #1 choice for 3C, would like more offense, but he isnt a bad choice either)

- Mike Matheson (Don't know much about him, but a good prospect is always nice to get)

- Keaton Ellerby (We don't need D, but he is a nice young NHL player with some more upside still)

My Proposition in terms of an offer:

To Van: Alex Petrovic, Quinton Howden, Jack Skille, 2nd.

To Fla: Roberto Luongo (Possible additional pieces)

Not alot there to me other' than picks/prospects. Toronto is a better trade partner if your looking at getting roster players in return. (or just looking at our return in general) But both have some young pieces I have my eye on.

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Lu wasn't the clear #1, he came into the season as the #1 but that changed into a clear tandem as the season went along.

And I don't know how you think one will get the bigger share, if both are playing well why wouldn't we alternate them till Lu is moved, so that Lu keeps him value up and so both stay fresh while we still have them, when you think about it that really doesn't make alot of sense.

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Why do you throw out Bjugstad's name as though he's chopped liver? I don't see it as any great surprise that Tallon would want to try and hold on to Bjugstad, as he could be a top-6 center for the Panthers (behind Huberdeau). Of course Tallon will do everything he can to make sure he doesn't have to give him up in a deal for Luongo.

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It has been mentioned. And you're never seen a GM publicly express one position while working on the exact opposite? I am not saying Luongo will be traded to Florida. This thread is for speculative purposes and that is what we are doing.

BTW: what name were you using 3 years ago when you were telling everyone on these forums about Schneider?

You'd prefer to trade for a guy with maybe half a year at most left on his contract rather than acquire Bjugstad? Well okay, that's your preference.

I see Bjugstad having a much higher ceiling than Bozak who has topped out as a 3C (borderline 2C). Is Bjugstad the next Crosby? Nope, but he could be a pretty good top-6 forward on this team in a few years time. I do think Bozak is an okay player who would likely help the Canucks right now, however, just from the perspective of getting the most return for Luongo, it would have to be Bjugstad.

And once again, I am not disputing that TB expects Lindback to be their starter, somehere down the road.

For right now however, I suspect that Yzerman is a bit nervous about his goalie situation. People may say he has the right idea, but that will be of little consequence when the core of his team (some of which are already getting long in the tooth) have lost a step or have moved on.

Even if Yzerman doesn't go after Luongo, he going to have to do something other than re-sign Garon and hope that it all works out.

regards,

G.

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Spin it however you want, the split last year amongst goaltender starters on the Canucks was 66/34 in Luongo's favour. Schneider was the clear backup until the playoffs, which ended up being the changing of the guard for the Canucks (and probably the last game that we'll see Luongo in our uniform).

To your point about "both playing well", even if that were to happen, it would still turn into a circus a la Team Coco v. Team Leno. Basically nothing good can result from that strategy - and the likelihood of them both playing at an equal level that one doesn't assert himself as the clear starter would be low.

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Why yes, I am. And why don't you tell us what name you were using at that time?

Is there something to hide? Are you embarassed by things you said at that time? Or are you merely BS'ing about things you claim to have said 3 years ago?

It should be a simple matter for you to dredge these old posts up and show everyone that you were indeed correct. C'mon, show us all how smart you are. :)

regards,

G.

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Yes well all know you feel we should trade an all star goalie for a soft and delicate flower named Kadri. He just needs to be treated nicey nicey and he'll score many points in the NHL because he has in the AHL. That meany Burke, that meany Wilson, that meany Eakins...if they were just nicey nicey to Kadri he'd score 70 pts a year and be the guy they desperately still need down the middle. Its all bc they aren't nicey nice and are playing politics because they don't like him. They don't want a 70 pt center in Toronto...

Or......mmmmmaybe they do and he's JUST NOT IT.

LMAO!

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I do like Petrovic, and while Howden is a bit of step down from Bjugstad, he ain't bad.

Skille is a good 3rd/4th liner but I'd rather the Canucks tried to get Matthias to address the 3C situation.

If there is a pick involved, I'd still prefer a 1st, although I don't see Tallon wanting to give up the 2013 1st, but I would be okay with him handing over the 2014 1st.

regards,

G.

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Again.

If you don't think having an open door to a spot - ie no one really ahead of you at the NHL level, basically saying rookie if you're good enough you stick is not a fair shot...I don't really know what you're expecting them to do.

then the same thing in year 2

then year three shows up to AHL camp out of shape

he's played 50 games and has had the door wide open to take a position. Its not like Coho here who had to play 3rd line, not get the offensive minutes/opptys

if kadri had the skills, they would have given it to him because simply the leafs NEED that....

your arguments really don't make sense when you distill it down but whatever dude. you think kadri is good i don't

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Your right it's not like Coho. Coho didn't get critized by the coaching staff & managment everytime he turned the puck over or made a defensive error.

It's not like Coho. Coho was given many chances to play on the team, Gillis pushed him to make the team as much as he possibly could. He did less in the AHL than Kadri ever has and yet Gillis still tried to get him here as much as possible.

And if you don't think Coho got the offensive minutes your blind, they made it specificly so that he would be put into offensive situations as MG said.

And if you really think the spot has been wide open for him, and he has had a fair shot, why is it that he gets a PPG in the AHL, yet the only time he gets called up is when they are so badly injured, that everyone else in the AHL has been called up, so they have to call him up. Why is that? He plays better than players in the AHL, yet they get the call up to the big leagues first. explain how that's fair. Then also explain why he was sent down when they were winning, he was one of there better players and he was a +.

Please explain those, I would love to hear what kind of explanation you can come up with.

Bottom line is for whatever reason It's not fair, if Kadri was given the chance Coho was with our team he probably would have done just as much.

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Your right it's not like Coho. Coho didn't get critized by the coaching staff & managment everytime he turned the puck over or made a defensive error.

It's not like Coho. Coho was given many chances to play on the team, Gillis pushed him to make the team as much as he possibly could. He did less in the AHL than Kadri ever has and yet Gillis still tried to get him here as much as possible.

And if you don't think Coho got the offensive minutes your blind, they made it specificly so that he would be put into offensive situations as MG said.

And if you really think the spot has been wide open for him, and he has had a fair shot, why is it that he gets a PPG in the AHL, yet the only time he gets called up is when they are so badly injured, that everyone else in the AHL has been called up, so they have to call him up. Why is that? He plays better than players in the AHL, yet they get the call up to the big leagues first. explain how that's fair. Then also explain why he was sent down when they were winning, he was one of there better players and he was a +.

Please explain those, I would love to hear what kind of explanation you can come up with.

Bottom line is for whatever reason It's not fair, if Kadri was given the chance Coho was with our team he probably would have done just as much.

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