Nuxfanabroad Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Once bitten, twice shy(on selling the future)...Respectfully I must disagree gentlemen. TO's lineup is going nowhere fast. Deep down they all know they need to tank a yr & a half(next 2 drafts, get some decent prospects); & load up in summer 2014(UFA's) with their cap-space. That's when they'll need a competent manager-'til then they'll tell Nonis what to do. The 3-way trade is good for Philly, TO & our boys. Let the Maple Fleas take on Bryz.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Right, and know that you essentially gave up Seguin and Hamilton for Kessel, who will end up wasting his best years as a Leaf on a rebuild? No, no I would not be happy with that. And any Leaf fan that is, is an idiot. I say add a few pieces, try and squeek into the playoffs like the kings did, and hope Luongo catches fire. There's less of a gamble there, then counting on some future prospects that may or may not ever pan out. Who's to say Nonis is any better at building a team than Burke was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The more I think about it, the more I think Florida is the best trading partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Mike Richards. Jeff Carter. Anze Kopitar. Dustin Brown. Drew Doughty. Jonathan Quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The more I think about it, the more I think Florida is the best trading partner. They're a team with a lot of young prospects that are building right now, but they've got salary issues. In order to re-sign Kulikov, they're going to have to dole out another 3 million or more most likely. That would mean they're going to have to shed some more salary, especially if they're interested in Luongo. I could see them offering us the best package, on the condition that we take back a large amount of salary. But since we have Kesler on LTIR, we can afford to do that, and simply buy out whatever salary they send us. (if ownership is willing to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Connolly waived implications: Bozak and Kadri are going nowhere. Sorry Smashian, maybe you can start rooting for the leafs. Here's my guess Toronto still in and Nucks are asking/getting Gardiner/Biggs and a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Connolly waived implications: Bozak and Kadri are going nowhere. Sorry Smashian, maybe you can start rooting for the leafs. Here's my guess Toronto still in and Nucks are asking/getting Gardiner/Biggs and a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Great? Yeah well Kessel scored some pretty good goals this year, but tanked down the stretch. And how many puck battles did he win? And ask me if TO fans thought he was worth the farm his first year in town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sure it would. They're not stupid. If you were a Leaf fan, would you rather acquire Luongo and fight for the 8th seed, only to get trounced in the 1st round by Boston, or would you rather roll the dice and hope to accumulate some franchise players through the draft like Edmonton has? Do you really think that most Leaf fans feel that they're a Roberto Luongo away from contending for a Stanley Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Connolly waived implications: Bozak and Kadri are going nowhere. Sorry Smashian, maybe you can start rooting for the leafs. Here's my guess Toronto still in and Nucks are asking/getting Gardiner/Biggs and a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I would do Luongo and Connauton/Sauve/Tanev For Gardiner, Biggs, and a 2nd. Then waive/trade Ballard when Gardiner takes his spot, then use that cap space and claim Tim Connolly just for this half season. Once Kesler is back he can play on the third line. Connolly as temp. 2nd line centre and then 3rd liner >> Ballard at 8 minutes a night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Kessel is one of the best pure goalscorers in the league. He has scored 99 goals for them in three years, without a legitimate 1st-line center. He's the only REAL threat on that team, so he has done it despite being the focus of top defenders each game. He turned Joffrey Lupul into an all-star. The guy has been all-world offensively for them, and hasn't missed a game in the last two seasons. The trade was only TERRIBLE for the Leafs because Boston got Seguin. Had they just been a bit better, or had another team win the lottery and bump that pick to 3rd, it wouldn't be so one-sided. Gubrandson/Johansen, Hamilton, and Caron is still a steep price, but not COMPLETELY one-sided. Besides, since when to TO fans know anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I would do Luongo and Connauton/Sauve/Tanev For Gardiner, Biggs, and a 2nd. Then waive/trade Ballard when Gardiner takes his spot, then use that cap space and claim Tim Connolly just for this half season. Once Kesler is back he can play on the third line. Connolly as temp. 2nd line centre and then 3rd liner >> Ballard at 8 minutes a night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I would do Luongo and Connauton/Sauve/Tanev For Gardiner, Biggs, and a 2nd. Then waive/trade Ballard when Gardiner takes his spot, then use that cap space and claim Tim Connolly just for this half season. Once Kesler is back he can play on the third line. Connolly as temp. 2nd line centre and then 3rd liner >> Ballard at 8 minutes a night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Ballard's a plug. He's gotta go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Ballard's a plug. He's gotta go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Guess you didn't watch Ballard during his Phoenix days? Guy put up 39, 27, and 21 points while he was a Coyote and then 34 and 28 points while he was a Panther. He is a top 4 D man, just not on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Guess you didn't watch Ballard during his Phoenix days? Guy put up 39, 27, and 21 points while he was a Coyote and then 34 and 28 points while he was a Panther. He is a top 4 D man, just not on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Dany Heatley, Vincent Lecavalier, Wade Redden and Scott Gomez were also good in the PAST. Get with the times sonny Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 IF Connolly passes waivers, I could see him as a throw-in on a smaller contract as a dump and part of the deal... as a short-term replacement for Kesler he's an upgrade over Ebbett and would be a high reward if he can re-find his form... Jake Gardiner + Tim Connolly + ______________ (Kadri? Biggs? 1st round pick? Other..) for Luongo + Raymond + 2.75 million of Connolly. Raymond could help TML, they only have 5/6 top three line wingers IMO and Raymond is a Nonis-era 'successful' guy and can play on the PK over MacA, Kulemin, Kessel, JVR and maybe even Lupul as far as top-9 wingers go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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