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Once bitten, twice shy(on selling the future)...Respectfully I must disagree gentlemen. TO's lineup is going nowhere fast. Deep down they all know they need to tank a yr & a half(next 2 drafts, get some decent prospects); & load up in summer 2014(UFA's) with their cap-space. That's when they'll need a competent manager-'til then they'll tell Nonis what to do.

The 3-way trade is good for Philly, TO & our boys. Let the Maple Fleas take on Bryz..

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Right, and know that you essentially gave up Seguin and Hamilton for Kessel, who will end up wasting his best years as a Leaf on a rebuild?

No, no I would not be happy with that. And any Leaf fan that is, is an idiot.

I say add a few pieces, try and squeek into the playoffs like the kings did, and hope Luongo catches fire. There's less of a gamble there, then counting on some future prospects that may or may not ever pan out. Who's to say Nonis is any better at building a team than Burke was?

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The more I think about it, the more I think Florida is the best trading partner.

They're a team with a lot of young prospects that are building right now, but they've got salary issues. In order to re-sign Kulikov, they're going to have to dole out another 3 million or more most likely.

That would mean they're going to have to shed some more salary, especially if they're interested in Luongo.

I could see them offering us the best package, on the condition that we take back a large amount of salary. But since we have Kesler on LTIR, we can afford to do that, and simply buy out whatever salary they send us. (if ownership is willing to)

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Sure it would. They're not stupid. If you were a Leaf fan, would you rather acquire Luongo and fight for the 8th seed, only to get trounced in the 1st round by Boston, or would you rather roll the dice and hope to accumulate some franchise players through the draft like Edmonton has?

Do you really think that most Leaf fans feel that they're a Roberto Luongo away from contending for a Stanley Cup?

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I would do Luongo and Connauton/Sauve/Tanev

For Gardiner, Biggs, and a 2nd.

Then waive/trade Ballard when Gardiner takes his spot, then use that cap space and claim Tim Connolly just for this half season. Once Kesler is back he can play on the third line.

Connolly as temp. 2nd line centre and then 3rd liner >> Ballard at 8 minutes a night

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Kessel is one of the best pure goalscorers in the league. He has scored 99 goals for them in three years, without a legitimate 1st-line center. He's the only REAL threat on that team, so he has done it despite being the focus of top defenders each game. He turned Joffrey Lupul into an all-star. The guy has been all-world offensively for them, and hasn't missed a game in the last two seasons.

The trade was only TERRIBLE for the Leafs because Boston got Seguin. Had they just been a bit better, or had another team win the lottery and bump that pick to 3rd, it wouldn't be so one-sided. Gubrandson/Johansen, Hamilton, and Caron is still a steep price, but not COMPLETELY one-sided.

Besides, since when to TO fans know anything?

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I would do Luongo and Connauton/Sauve/Tanev

For Gardiner, Biggs, and a 2nd.

Then waive/trade Ballard when Gardiner takes his spot, then use that cap space and claim Tim Connolly just for this half season. Once Kesler is back he can play on the third line.

Connolly as temp. 2nd line centre and then 3rd liner >> Ballard at 8 minutes a night

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I would do Luongo and Connauton/Sauve/Tanev

For Gardiner, Biggs, and a 2nd.

Then waive/trade Ballard when Gardiner takes his spot, then use that cap space and claim Tim Connolly just for this half season. Once Kesler is back he can play on the third line.

Connolly as temp. 2nd line centre and then 3rd liner >> Ballard at 8 minutes a night

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IF Connolly passes waivers, I could see him as a throw-in on a smaller contract as a dump and part of the deal... as a short-term replacement for Kesler he's an upgrade over Ebbett and would be a high reward if he can re-find his form...

Jake Gardiner + Tim Connolly + ______________ (Kadri? Biggs? 1st round pick? Other..) for Luongo + Raymond + 2.75 million of Connolly.

Raymond could help TML, they only have 5/6 top three line wingers IMO and Raymond is a Nonis-era 'successful' guy and can play on the PK over MacA, Kulemin, Kessel, JVR and maybe even Lupul as far as top-9 wingers go..

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