thad Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Luongo is actually the worst Shootout goalie that has ever lived. He literally is. So your Kane goal point is kind of flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*VaNcOuVeRCaNuCkS* Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I wouldn't consider the worst in history I would consider him average though 170 Shootout Attempts 53 Goals Against .688 Save% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I've been reading several threads discussing the potential of either buying out Luo or trading him, if and when, the reduced season starts; due to already worked trade deals or new CBA provisions. If any of you think that Luo is getting traded with 48 games to play, flat out, your dreaming. How does anyone think a trade would be beneficial to the team at this point? A reduced scheduled and the likelihood of a playoff run, requires this team to be loaded from the top down. Reduced schedule, no goalie burnout, plus we haven't seen what Schneider can do when the pressure of starting is on his shoulders; do you really want to throw away the best goaltending tandem in the NHL for HALF A SEASON!!! Luo's trade value won't crash dramatically from now to the beginning of next season so what's the rush in moving a potentially crucial asset for the playoffs. I hope Luo stays, gets a cup here, and moves on to a city that appreciates him more. P.S. If anyone thinks Schneider is the answer and is ready for the season, you obviously haven't seen the Kane goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7bSuDvlsuc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underachieving Hero of CDC Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 If its a shortened season, nothing has changed. The same reasons for getting rid of Luongo still exist. Its illogical to spend that kind of money on a backup goaltender when we know damn well the cash could be used to shore up holes elsewhere in the lineup. When the playoffs come, we can have $5.33 mil sitting on the bench doing absolutely nothing for us or we can pick up a key player that can be used every game. You also can't ignore that with everything that's happened, there is no way Luongo is going to want to remain in Vancouver as a backup goalie. He's still a very proud individual and he won't like the idea of being put on the backburner during the prime of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 It's because of the condensed schedule. There would be more games in a smaller time frame than normal which would be tiring on a goalie. So having 2 capable starters would be a huge advantage for us over teams with only 1 good goalie. Sure, a trade for the right players could help us, but many people seem to think we'll trade him for peanuts or just buy him out, which would be a lot worse than keeping him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptCanuck16 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Based on this logic then Martin Broduer is no good either. Watch this penalty shot goal where he gets owned by Henrik Sedin. What a bum of a goalie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Based on this logic then Martin Broduer is no good either. Watch this penalty shot goal where he gets owned by Henrik Sedin. What a bum of a goalie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Creature Blue Lagoon Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 I think a lot of people are missing the point, its not simply about getting scored on, its how badly he was out played, back and forth hoping to get lucky, as opposed to being aggressive and confident like we've seen with Luo. Schneider's confidence is my main concern, regardless of what people say or do, he is unproven and was spoon-fed games last season with the anticipation of trading him in the off season (the goalie switch wasnt something in consideration until after the playoffs). Cory played against big name teams with LOOOTTTSSS of rest in between and most likely advance notice he would be playing in order to prepare mentally and physically and give him the best chance at showing. Not the same as carrying a team through an entire season like Luo had been doing. My opinion: Schneider has a lot of growing pains to grow through as a starter and the Canucks and the fans are going to go through those pains with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I wouldn't consider the worst in history I would consider him average though 170 Shootout Attempts 53 Goals Against .688 Save% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I think a lot of people are missing the point, its not simply about getting scored on, its how badly he was out played, back and forth hoping to get lucky, as opposed to being aggressive and confident like we've seen with Luo. Schneider's confidence is my main concern, regardless of what people say or do, he is unproven and was spoon-fed games last season with the anticipation of trading him in the off season (the goalie switch wasnt something in consideration until after the playoffs). Cory played against big name teams with LOOOTTTSSS of rest in between and most likely advance notice he would be playing in order to prepare mentally and physically and give him the best chance at showing. Not the same as carrying a team through an entire season like Luo had been doing. My opinion: Schneider has a lot of growing pains to grow through as a starter and the Canucks and the fans are going to go through those pains with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Creature Blue Lagoon Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 But you should try watching Lou, he is no longer aggressive and confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 At least not since the organization tried to customize his style and take him out of his realm. Let him play, then we'll see. If he stays this season I bet he'll play stellar knowing that he is gone by next year for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Ah, at least that's a reason ... but would Lou and his terrible starts help that much with that few games? It's going to be an odd season if it actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 which, when compared to elite goalies is terrible not average by a long shot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Umm without reading other replies that's kind of dumb. It changes nothing. You still only have one goalie playing in the playoffs and the season is shorter on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFrame14 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Who is going the other way on the trade if we trade him. All of you lou lovers were saying before that Cory would never hold up in a 82 game season, now it's that he can't because the season is too short? Ok I'm getting lost. I think that a trade for the right players would help us more then Lou on the bench, others may agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Did we not go to the finals and have Lou / Schneids share the Jennings trophy after this goalie coaching change? Maybe he wants to return to a different style to max out his potential, but it seems he also adjusted pretty well and been a superb goalie throughout... The critique is breakdowns, or not bringing his A game, at critical moments. That has happened throughout his career dating back to the WJC's and including two separate Chicago series and of course the finals. He was also being outplayed against LA. Can you tell me where those breakdowns related to mis management? And all signs point to mental breakdowns. Lou was playing great against Beantown, but got distracted by his tires not being pumped and threw up a stinker. Just one example. That fragility is a Lou issue not a management one IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Now that the game is back on, I have a question. The entire sports world seems to think that Schneider is number 1 and Luongo is the backup. When has any official statement been released by the Canucks organization stating that? Just because Schneider started the last few games of the Kings series is not an official statement. We still lost that series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Now that the game is back on, I have a question. The entire sports world seems to think that Schneider is number 1 and Luongo is the backup. When has any official statement been released by the Canucks organization stating that? Just because Schneider started the last few games of the Kings series is not an official statement. We still lost that series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 There is clearly no obvious reason to move Luongo if we don't get a good offer. Splitting games or going with the hot goalie for a compressed season gives us a huge advantage. A short training camp means that every team is going to lose players early to things like groin pulls. Goalies especially. It is preferable to have him move and get something valuable, but no problem doing that in July either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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