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Team 1040 remarking that Canuck fans would be happy with Bozak, Kadri and 2nd for Luongo...

Please Mike G. don't do it. Bozak is not a true top 6 forward and Kadri doesn't make the team. Stick to your guns, a big scoring winger(top six guy like Clowe) , good prospect and 2nd round pick.

just my opinion.

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Bozak, Kadri and a 2nd would be an epic fail, but Gillis has shown before that he likes to throw in a crap trade (Ballard, Bernier, Coho) now and again. This trade does not help us at all.

How about:

To Philly

Luongo

Cannauton

2014 first

Raymond

To Van

Couturier

Simmons

Bryz

See we give up way more, take on Bryz who we can buy out, but get two young, big players who will help us now and in the future.

MG woould not think of this, nor would he take Bryz back because he is not capable of thinking outside the box.

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Team 1040 remarking that Canuck fans would be happy with Bozak, Kadri and 2nd for Luongo...

Please Mike G. don't do it. Bozak is not a true top 6 forward and Kadri doesn't make the team. Stick to your guns, a big scoring winger(top six guy like Clowe) , good prospect and 2nd round pick.

just my opinion.

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Is it just me or do you guys also feel that the Canucks should keep Luongo and really make a run for the Cup hard for one last try, with Lui that is. I feel in this shortened season, we will need the best goaltending we can get and we have an awesome tandem. Trade Luongo in the summer.

Edit: I do understand that we need to fulfil some needs up front.

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Kass9, In a perfect world, if we won with both 'tenders shining, we could then make a deal with either one. If the Schneids deal was that much better...It would simply be incredible to see both these bloke's names on the Cup.

It's pretty darn rare for a team to have TWO goaltenders so talented-in addition to being really good guys & teammates. Can anyone remember a comparable?

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Bozak is a decent two-way center, who is only 26 years old. He had 47 points last year, despite missing 9 games with injury. Lapierre and Malhotra had 37 points combined, each playing more games than him. I'm not sure why everyone is dismissing him as completely valueless, especially with our need for a 2nd line center.

Also based on AHL play, Kadri > Schroeder by a long shot. We could use a forward prospect with offensive flair desperately. And our prospect pool is looking shallow, so another 2nd round pick certainly wouldn't hurt that.

True, none of Bozak, Kadri, or the 2nd round pick are sure things. That package would definitely not be a "homerun". However, it directly addresses three glaring organizational needs - now (2nd C), the near future (forward prospect who can score), and the later future (lack of prospect depth). So, if there really isn't a better deal on the table, I would say that I certainly wouldn't be unhappy with that trade.

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I think many of you are expecting too much of a return for Luongo, unfortunately. Yes he is a wicked goalie, but it's supply and demand... and if there aren't a lot of teams demanding the supply, that drives the price down. Plus although he hasn't shown signs of slowing down, he eventually WILL start to enter the twilight of his career, so any team taking him on is taking an known risk.

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Bozak is a decent two-way center, who is only 26 years old. He had 47 points last year, despite missing 9 games with injury. Lapierre and Malhotra had 37 points combined, each playing more games than him. I'm not sure why everyone is dismissing him as completely valueless, especially with our need for a 2nd line center.

Also based on AHL play, Kadri > Schroeder by a long shot. We could use a forward prospect with offensive flair desperately. And our prospect pool is looking shallow, so another 2nd round pick certainly wouldn't hurt that.

True, none of Bozak, Kadri, or the 2nd round pick are sure things. That package would definitely not be a "homerun". However, it directly addresses three glaring organizational needs - now (2nd C), the near future (forward prospect who can score), and the later future (lack of prospect depth). So, if there really isn't a better deal on the table, I would say that I certainly wouldn't be unhappy with that trade.

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Maybe in the offseason, but not this year. If Schneider falters or gets injured it is season over. Bozak and Kadri don't bring enough to really improve the team. That said, Bozak is a UFA so no this wouldn't happen in the offseason.

We should go after a solid backup like Theodore or Nabokov in the offseason. That would make it easier to trade Luongo for a roster player and picks.

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Bozak, Kadri and a 2nd would be an epic fail, but Gillis has shown before that he likes to throw in a crap trade (Ballard, Bernier, Coho) now and again. This trade does not help us at all.

How about:

To Philly

Luongo

Cannauton

2014 first

Raymond

To Van

Couturier

Simmons

Bryz

See we give up way more, take on Bryz who we can buy out, but get two young, big players who will help us now and in the future.

MG woould not think of this, nor would he take Bryz back because he is not capable of thinking outside the box.

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Kass9, In a perfect world, if we won with both 'tenders shining, we could then make a deal with either one. If the Schneids deal was that much better...It would simply be incredible to see both these bloke's names on the Cup.

It's pretty darn rare for a team to have TWO goaltenders so talented-in addition to being really good guys & teammates. Can anyone remember a comparable?

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People need to take off the homer glasses when it comes to luongos value. Considering his age, his contract, HIS decision on where to go, and the market, this deal is fair if not more that he eventually gets.

1. Luongo is not looking to go to a rebuilding team and no rebuilding team would want an older goalie. Cross out NYI, and CBJ

2. Many teams have goalie prospects that they are developing to become take the role of #1. Cross out BOS, TB, FLA, EDM

3. It's not the 90's anymore, most teams already has solid #1 starters they rely on. Cross out MTL, BUF, NYR PHI, PIT, CAR WPG, CAL, MIN, DET, NSH, ANA, DAL, COL, LAS, PHX, SJ.

So who is left. You got TOR, & NJ

Not much of a market for a aging goalie with a long term contract. He still is a great goalie, but how much would other teams be willing to give up if only for a slight unproven upgrade. Were not talking about Roy or Brodeur in there prime. It boils down to simple economics. High supply and low demand = low prices.

Next thing people need to realize is Schroeder has little to no value. 0 NHL games and not exceptional numbers in the AHL. If Lombardi a once 53 point NHL player gets only a conditional pick, what would a guy like Schroeder deserve. Think about it, really.

Bozak Put up 47 points last year on the leafs. Burrows put up 52 points playing with the twins. He fills that 2nd line center role perfectly until kes comes back and then he becomes the 3 line center between hansen and higgins.

Finally then on top of this deal, we unload luongos cap hit and this is the most important piece of the deal. We then have room to sign/ trade for a player to fill any holes we may have. There it is i've said my piece. If you can logically explain why luongos value is worth more, i'm all ears....

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