key2thecup Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Norway Data Shows Earth’s Global Warming Less Severe Than Feared Jan 27, 2013 New estimates from a Norwegian research project show meeting targets for minimizing global warming may be more achievable than previously thought. After the planet’s average surface temperature rose through the 1990s, the increase has almost leveled off at the level of 2000, while ocean water temperature has also stabilized, the Research Council of Norway said in a statement on its website. After applying data from the past decade, the results showed temperatures may rise 1.9 degrees Celsius if Co2 levels double by 2050, below the 3 degrees predicted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. “The Earth’s mean temperature rose sharply during the 1990s,” said Terje Berntsen, a professor at the University of Oslo who worked on the study. “This may have caused us to overestimate climate sensitivity.” The findings also show the effect of reduced airborne particulates from burning coal, which may decrease the cloud cover that cools the earth, probably has less of an impact on climate through indirect cooling than originally projected. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-27/norway-data-shows-earth-s-global-warming-less-severe-than-feared.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 So we're still doomed, but not within our lifetime? Thank goodness! I can finally burn these tires I've been trying to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumquats Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 China says, "challenge accepted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I basically feel the same as the posters above me. This is good news if true, but it doesn't mean that we don't still have a big problem on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckNuckNucks Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 More truth and facts are starting to surface. Understandable that the back-peddling will begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 'Truth' 'Facts' LOL. We're so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 China says, "challenge accepted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 /inb4 "methodology"/"Koch brothers" Well I'll be.. you mean we should be sceptical of the anthropogenic climate doomsday predictions? That might throw a wrench in a few gimmicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckNuckNucks Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 'Truth' 'Facts' LOL. We're so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Not at all. You just have to be open to both. I'm for keeping the environment clean and healthy. I happily do my part in the effort. I just don't believe the hype and propaganda behind the next "Capitalist Money Maker' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 China says, "challenge accepted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Ahh... the world's #1 air polluting nation I think he/she's referring to both sides of the climate debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Yeah, I think that's bs. At what point do we treat these idiots the same way we treat those who still deny evolution? You can't pretend it's an honest debate when you've got overwhelming evidence that states one of the sides is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 'Levelling off' and 'not as severe' are very different from 'not occurring' and 'not a problem.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonk Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 What has gotten lost in this media frenzy is that the paper is under review and has not been published. All the new articles are based off a press release. It is rather interesting to see how some are quick to embrace this even though no one has even seen the results, or the data that goes into the study. What is also lost in the media frenzy is that this is one study, whereas the body of knowledge is really the sum of a broad range of evidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonk Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Here's a bit of context for the study. One main measure of the effect of CO2 is called the climate sensitivity, which is how much will the earth warm if we double CO2. The current best estimate is 2.0-4.5 degrees, with the most likely value of 3 degrees, with is from all lines of evidence. Suppose that the conclusion of the paper holds, a sensitivity of 1.9 degrees will certainly be on the low end, which is good news. However a huge caveat that is left out from most new report is that if the same method is applied to data only up to 1999, the sensitivity is 3.7 degrees. The authors explained that the difference is likely due to the inflated warming up to 1999 due to natural variability, leading to an overestimation of the sensitivity. However as natural variability lowered warming over the past decade, it is possible that the estimation is biased low. Another thing that should be stressed is the following excerpt from the press release, which is missing from news reports Terje Berntsen emphasises that his project's findings must not be construed as an excuse for complacency in addressing human-induced global warming. The results do indicate, however, that it may be more within our reach to achieve global climate targets than previously thought. Regardless, the fight cannot be won without implementing substantial climate measures within the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsflash Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_for_cup27 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 China says, "challenge accepted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Love how people like to jump all over the results of one study. Kinda like the nutjobs who gobbled up the "vaccines cause autism" study that was .... oops... full of crap and fake. Man there are a lot of sheep, on BOTH SIDES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks#01fan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Climate change is happening in the whole solar system not just earth, humans arent helping but are not the cause of it nor can we do anythig about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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