Baercheese Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Cringe worthy trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gally Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 CM Punk, you're supposed to warn us with an "Incoming WTF" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 To : Morgan Reilly, Mark Scheifele, CGY 2015 4th Round Pick To : Braydon Coburn, Malte Stromwall (uncreated), TOR 2015 5th Round Pick Terrible, terrible trade. Calling for a veto on this one, does anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Terrible, terrible trade. Calling for a veto on this one, does anyone agree? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLahey Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 To : Morgan Reilly, Mark Scheifele, CGY 2015 4th Round Pick To : Braydon Coburn, Malte Stromwall (uncreated), TOR 2015 5th Round Pick I don't think it is that bad. Mark Scheifele is the main asset in the deal, but is being out-performed by 4 guys in the AHL making him movable (IMO). Morgan Reilly's 2 assists won't be missed considering I have Kichton and Savard already better offensively and defensively. I gave them up for something I don't have in Coburn - someone who will be useful at both ends of the ice and is still <30. IMO I overpaid, but not to the extent that it appears. Flame on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think Vetos are bad for the league, more so then a bad trade.. I would rather look at the GM who traded away his players then a Veto. Maybe the GM needs to have his traded approved till he can prove he has the ability to trade appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 EDIT: Nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Terrible, terrible trade. Calling for a veto on this one, does anyone agree? I think Vetos are bad for the league, more so then a bad trade.. I would rather look at the GM who traded away his players then a Veto. Maybe the GM needs to have his traded approved till he can prove he has the ability to trade appropriately. That in the bold precisely. Yea at first I thought it was a bad trade, but the GM himself has justified the move. It would be one thing if he never knew what he did and the deal went through, but he does so it's his move as GM and he gets to do so rightfully. Although it may not seem like the most sense making deal, to him he gets something in Coburn which he doesn't have so I'm okay with the deal after knowing Lahey knows what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Not really that big of a deal...however I wonder what Toronto will get for Thornton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think its more a product of the market than a bad move on lahey's part. At any time in the season, no more than a handful of teams are selling top 6/top 4 assets, I mean how many times do we see gm's post that they are looking for that with nothing coming of it due to no supply. So when one becomes available, the price to acquire it is going to be much more than "normal" especially for a guy at the prime age of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think Vetos are bad for the league, more so then a bad trade.. Bingo. Unless a GM is making bad trades purposely to mess with the league, vetoing deals opens up an ugly can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Canucks are listening to offers on Cory Schneider. Looking for a top prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLahey Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think Vetos are bad for the league, more so then a bad trade.. I would rather look at the GM who traded away his players then a Veto. Maybe the GM needs to have his traded approved till he can prove he has the ability to trade appropriately. Before this trade, I have had none of my trades critiqued because they made sense for both sides. As lax said, I paid the market price for a defenseman in his prime. I knowingly overpaid to acquire a defenseman I wanted and in no way am I doing something bad for the league. It's not like I am trading top prospects for garbage - I traded assets away, I gained assets at the market price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Before this trade, I have had none of my trades critiqued because they made sense for both sides. As lax said, I paid the market price for a defenseman in his prime. I knowingly overpaid to acquire a defenseman I wanted and in no way am I doing something bad for the league. It's not like I am trading top prospects for garbage - I traded assets away, I gained assets at the market price. I was speaking on the conversation of alternatives to a veto. Not directly about you as a GM. Was just offering different options because a Veto is a really terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susraiders Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 While the trade was questionable in some people's eyes, one trade should not dictate a veto nor a firing. If similar questionable trades are made by the same GM, then the league should have a look, but until that time, let the trades flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I was a tough critique of this trade, but after re-thinking it I think it should be allowed. I myself have made one or two (depending on opinion) questionable trades to bring in players I wanted. One of those players was Phil Kessel. One of my favourite players in the game. It was my first trade in STHS. I overpaid for him, but he has been gold on this team. Learning curves are everywhere and it's up to the GM to learn from mistakes and move on, or to prove everyone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Honestly, I was on the short end of a few trades early on in my STHS career back in MTL and there were no Vetoes/Safety-net for me, I had to fight to rebuild that team into something half respectable and I believe it made me a better GM over the long term as well as giving me a new found respect for the teams that choose to take weaker teams from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Honestly, I was on the short end of a few trades early on in my STHS career back in MTL and there were no Vetoes/Safety-net for me, I had to fight to rebuild that team into something half respectable and I believe it made me a better GM over the long term as well as giving me a new found respect for the teams that choose to take weaker teams from day 1. Pretty much this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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