EagleShield Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 With Gillis saying yesterday that it was unlikely that Lou will play for us again, let's discuss potential destinations. First, we look at teams that need better goaltending: New Jersey: Two goalies 35+, time to look at the post-Brodeur era. Luongo would be a great guy for them to have. New York Islanders: No goalies contracted for next year. Thomas not going to sign, Nabokov is meh and Poulin is too young. Team is beginning to look OK, Lou would be a step in the right direction. Philadelphia: Bryzgalov is Bryzgalov, improvement needed badly. Pittsburgh: Fleury is the reason the Penguins aren't a dynasty, pure and simple. Toronto: Up and coming (unfortuantely), Lou would provide the top class goaltending that they crave. Florida: Only one inexperienced goalie contracted for next season. Lou wants to go to Florida. Tampa Bay: Average goaltending, with some stellar forwards. Washington: Neuvirth is nothing special. Detroit: Howard is nothing special. Calgary: With Kiprusoff possibly gone, they're looking for a goalie. Edmonton: Have a lot of the pieces to be a good team, but a goalie is not one of them. Minnesota: Depending on how you rate Harding. Now, we don't trade in the new conference, so that's Calgary and Edmonton gone. I don't think Detroit or Minnesota make the deal. They should, but I don't think it will. Florida have bigger cap issues than we do. Top Goalie target this off season is Miller, and Sabres want draft picks, so he goes to NJ or Philly, I think NJ. So that leaves Lou to Islanders, Flyers, Penguins, Leafs, Lightning or Capitals. I think we want a deal with Flyers or Lightning. Leafs are going to underpay, Capitals won't part with anything we'd want, Penguins would need to dump Flower, which would be tough. Luongo + 2013 1st + 2014 3rd for Bryzgalov (to buy out) + 2013 1st + Talbot, or Luongo + 2013 1st for St Louis + 2013 1st + 2014 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I've said fleury is a crap goalie for four years now... its slowly becoming evident... He's as sheltered as Cory was when he was posting shutouts with under twenty shots faced this season! I'd like to see lui in Philly or return to nyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 why would you scratch out Florida? they dont have good goaltending and Markstrom isnt a superstar. these are imo the places he might go NYI Florida Philly NJD and Toronto if they still want him other than those teams i dont see anyone else interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 So we trade for Bryzgalov just to buy him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 IMO Luongo will get traded to 1 of 5 teams 1) Florida 2) NY Islanders 3) New Jersey T-5: Pittsburgh/Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 IMO Luongo will get traded to 1 of 5 teams 1) Florida 2) NY Islanders 3) New Jersey T-5: Pittsburgh/Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 why would you scratch out Florida? they dont have good goaltending and Markstrom isnt a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 They have 71 million comitted against their cap next year, they need to get rid of players, not add more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks1 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Uhh, what? They actually have a little over $17 million in cap space next year so Im not entirely sure where you got that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Tdot has their Reimer glasses on, they'll stand pat this summer. Who knows, it might work out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Guess we rule out Toronto now. Reimer with another awesome game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckfan_21 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 lol at the fact you think luongo and our first (I think mid twenties) gets st. Louis and tampa's first which is gonna be 3rd I believe so it`s basically luongo and a late first prospect for st. Louis and whoevers left between mackinnon and drouin. we'd probably need to add on a top prospect from us or a very good player (cant think of one at the moment). I do like the fit to tampa though, lindback did not play very well (just ask my fantasy team ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Uhh, what? They actually have a little over $17 million in cap space next year so Im not entirely sure where you got that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willhouse Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I think the most realistic places are Philly, NYI or NJ. TO looks like they'll give Reimer some run. Fleury has 2 more years left on his deal so I don't think he's going anywhere unless they buy him out. No chance Lu goes to Tampa seeing how they traded for Bishop at the deadline. I'd also throw Phoenix into the mix since I don't think they can afford to keep Mike Smith. I got a feeling he ends up in Calgary or Edmonton. I wouldn't mind trading Lu to Edmonton for some of their young talent actually. I know their division rivals and all that but if it's the best deal out there then why not? Lu probably wouldn't waive his NTC to go there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Some of the ones you've scratched out are far more likely destinations. I'd say Florida and Edmonton are right up there. I think MacTavish will feel he needs to make a change up, and trade for Luongo. At that point I'd probably have the Oil winning the NW. I'd like to see us grab Hartikainen and MPS from them, and possibly a D-man if we end up dealing Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 New Jersey: Two goalies 35+, time to look at the post-Brodeur era. Luongo would be a great guy for them to have. Unless brodeur retires they wont be get getting a goalie. New York Islanders: No goalies contracted for next year. Thomas not going to sign, Nabokov is meh and Poulin is too young. Team is beginning to look OK, Lou would be a step in the right direction. Philadelphia: Bryzgalov is Bryzgalov, improvement needed badly. Holmgren stated flyers wont buy out Bryz this year. So why would we? Pittsburgh: Fleury is the reason the Penguins aren't a dynasty, pure and simple. Toronto: Up and coming (unfortuantely), Lou would provide the top class goaltending that they crave. Florida: Only one inexperienced goalie contracted for next season. Lou wants to go to Florida. Tampa Bay: Average goaltending, with some stellar forwards. Ben Bishop the just traded for, also have Vasilevskiy (the best prospect goalie not in the NHL Washington: Neuvirth is nothing special. You mean Holtby right? He's been everything they need in a goalie and at a cheap cap hit. Detroit: Howard is nothing special. Just signed a 5.3 extension 5 years Calgary: With Kiprusoff possibly gone, they're looking for a goalie. Edmonton: Have a lot of the pieces to be a good team, but a goalie is not one of them. Minnesota: Depending on how you rate Harding. Again you mean Backstrom? Do you watch hockey? I'm sorry that was rude but if you don't know anything about the other team including who their starting goalie is, it's pretty hard to have a discussion about where or not they need Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Guess we rule out Toronto now. Reimer with another awesome game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Some people have been suggesting we trade for someone and buy that new player out (like Bryz) ... why don't we just buy Luongo out then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 1. Luongo is not going to end up in Philly. Schneider might (if Gillis gets fired, bet your bottom dollar that its Schneider and not Luongo that moves). Philly is not going to drop 25 mil and 3 mil in cap space, then take on 50 mil and 5.33 in capspace for a goalie. That puts them at 8 mil+ on goal for the next 5 years. That would be insane. They are either going to offload Bryzgalov for prospects or buyout Bryzgalov and put in a low cap hit new 'up and comming' Goalie and take their chances by improving up front, like Ottawa. 2. Luongo is not going to Detroit. Never going to happen. Detroit is not in the business of giving out long contracts and then immideately getting rid of the guy. Not for a goalie swap atleast. 3. Luongo is not going to the Islanders. Islanders have capspace but they have no money. And they are already paying for DiPietro, will continue to pay for DiPietro for a while. They again, are not going to carry 8 mil in capspace in goalie and pay 50 million more in another goalie. They dont have money. 4. The only way Pittsburg is getting luongo is if we get Fleury. If so, kiss cup chances goodbye till Fleury's contract runs out, because he isnt that good and we wont win by spending 9 mil on goal. Also, if Gillis trades Luongo for Fleury, i expect him to get fired before the ink is dry on that deal. 5. New Jersey is not going to work. They are in the 'as long as Brodeur-Hedberg duo wants to play, we will let them play' mode. They have them for the next season and is not going to take on another 5.3 mil on goal (putting it at 10.2 million in goal for them) and promptly K-O any shot at qualifying this year. Plus,NJ is in financial trouble, they are not going to be keen to take on another 45-50 million on their books. ***** Realistic Luongo destinations (IMO): A. St. Louis. Halak is tradeable, leaving a very credible Brian Elliott as Luongo backup. St.Louis has capspace and i dont think they are deep in red either. They may want Luongo but question is, what do we want back in return ? I dont like anything from St.Louis except for Petrangelo, Shattenkirk and they are not going to give up either one of those two. B. Colorado. Probably wont happen because of the whole 'dont trade within divisions' mentality but is a credible option. Colorado has dire need of solid goaltending, we have dire need of sick hands up front. C. Florida Panthers (already talked about) D. Toronto (already talked about. If Toronto makes it to the 2nd round and Reimer has a decent series, forget about it then) Those are pretty much, it folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 With Gillis saying yesterday that it was unlikely that Lou will play for us again, let's discuss potential destinations. First, we look at teams that need better goaltending: New Jersey: Two goalies 35+, time to look at the post-Brodeur era. Luongo would be a great guy for them to have. New York Islanders: No goalies contracted for next year. Thomas not going to sign, Nabokov is meh and Poulin is too young. Team is beginning to look OK, Lou would be a step in the right direction. Philadelphia: Bryzgalov is Bryzgalov, improvement needed badly. Pittsburgh: Fleury is the reason the Penguins aren't a dynasty, pure and simple. Toronto: Up and coming (unfortuantely), Lou would provide the top class goaltending that they crave. Florida: Only one inexperienced goalie contracted for next season. Lou wants to go to Florida. Tampa Bay: Average goaltending, with some stellar forwards. Washington: Neuvirth is nothing special. Detroit: Howard is nothing special. Calgary: With Kiprusoff possibly gone, they're looking for a goalie. Edmonton: Have a lot of the pieces to be a good team, but a goalie is not one of them. Minnesota: Depending on how you rate Harding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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