UFCanuck Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Arniel? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Nooooo thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru_Knyte Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Really want Tippet if he becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Maybe its because the media seems to really over-hype anyone or anything Toronto when it comes to hockey......you never know for sure if you are getting all that is advertised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleNuckFan Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Yea he was a top AHL coach for the Moose, but I doubt many people were throwing his name around at the time for a head coaching position. I wonder how different things would have been if we chose Carlyle and the Ducks chose AV... Eakins is the most likely AHL coach to get an NHL position for a reason though. I don`t think it`s just Toronto hype. The Marlies have played very well under him, and from watching him being interviewed he seems like a very smart well spoken guy. And he looks genuinely pissed off after a loss, as opposed to AV who seemed to just shrug them off and make excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He did coach a team to the finals in the AHL. It's not like he's completly unqualified. And just look at the impact he had on a player like Kadri, and some of the other young guys on the Leafs this year. We all saw how much heart those younger guys played with. Eakins has alot to do with that. Again, I think Tippett should be their number 1 target, but I don't think Eakins should be that far down the list. And should definitely be considered for an assistant coaching position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 You do realize Tippett was probably dealing the hand he was dealt right? Pheonix wasn't exactly overstocked with offensive talent so they had to resort to a defensive style to prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undrafted Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I remember there was a little talk... It was rumored that we would inevitably replace crow with him, but as soon as I remember hearing that....Bam, his old pal Burke snaps him up in a second... Then...cup..... Bastards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I never said he was unqualified or that he did not have an impact on some young guys. I also never said he was not a good candidate for the job. But the Canucks are a veteran team and will continue to be one. How is he handling veteran NHL players? Does his approach translate well to a completely different type of group? Will NHL players that have had the run of the room for years buy what he is selling? Will they give him respect, especially a few guys who actually played with him as a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgm Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Arniel? No thanks. So what's the deal with Arniel? I see people keep trashing him, Why? I've heard posters accusing him about the way he handled some players in Chicago, but how valid is that? He supposedly had a decent rep with players when he coached the Moose. He must have had some success to get hired by Columbus, which did turn into a gong show. How much blame do you assign to this setback vs his previous record. The question is whether there's any valid reason to not consider Scott Arniel, He was talked about as a potential HC when he was in Winnipeg and he was an assistant coach in Buffalo before that. I like Tippet but I'm curious about why the negativity about Arniel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Yea, but all of these questions can be asked about any new coach that is brought in really. Just because we bring in a veteran coach doesn't mean he'll mesh well with the team or get them to buy what he's selling. It's just as much of a risk IMO. You have to look at what type of person you're bringing in first and foremost. Find out what kind of personality he has, how he runs his room, and what other players and coaches think of him. He seems to have a pretty good reputation in the hockey world, so I don't think it would be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think it would be a bigger issue and risk with a guy who has never coached at the NHL level than it would be for a veteran coach though. I think many fans underestimate just how much of a country club atmosphere this team has started displaying the last couple of years. Look at Bieksa's comment about the players should be able to handle things still (hasn't worked yet but hey whatever). He is ALREADY resisting a coach that holds them accountable before the guy is even hired. Whether it is Eakins or someone else, the next coach needs to be able to hold guys like that accountable for this team to get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relfk Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Well if they're resistent to accountability, then the only way to change that is to trade someone from the core to send a message. Having a coach come in and start trying to control a team that deosn't want to listen is probably the worst thing we can do. It has just as much chance of backfiring IMO. If the new coach wants to get their respect he has to earn it by talking to them, and not at them. And teaching them a system that they can all buy into, and making it a fun team to play on. A coach that comes in and just yells at them is probably going to lose the room pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Which is why Tortorella would be a nightmare. (Warning Language) I think the Sedins would absolutely tune him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Well if they're resistent to accountability, then the only way to change that is to trade someone from the core to send a message. Having a coach come in and start trying to control a team that deosn't want to listen is probably the worst thing we can do. It has just as much chance of backfiring IMO. If the new coach wants to get their respect he has to earn it by talking to them, and not at them. And teaching them a system that they can all buy into, and making it a fun team to play on. A coach that comes in and just yells at them is probably going to lose the room pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 And a few core guys should be traded as long as you bring it up. Just a coaching change will not likely be enough to change the culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Which is why Tortorella would be a nightmare. (Warning Language) I think the Sedins would absolutely tune him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relfk Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 That's exactly what needs to be done with Edler. Clearly ignoring his terrible play hasn't helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Edler would tune Torts out also. Screaming profanities into Edler's ear isn't going to make his game better. I think it'd be better if a coach worked with Edler on fixing his play... something Bowness obviously never did.. I hope the next Defence coach does a way better job than Bowness did and that's why I think a guy like Larry Robinson would do wonders for Edler. Never know, Eakins could be our Larry Robinson. A Tippett headcoaching job with Eakins as an associate working on the young players and defence along with a special teams coach with a new system would be an absolutely perfect choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relfk Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 And if Edler (or any other player playing as dreadful as he has been) tunes out Torts, Gillis should drive him to the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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