Dazzle Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Here's my first try at this. VANCOUVER: Van's 1st round pick (23rd) Luongo Edler for NYI's 1st (15th) Dipietro Matt Donovan Why Vancouver would want this deal: - They get to move up 8 spots in the draft and can decide what to do with it later. - Last chance to trade Edler before NTC kicks in. - Luongo gets a new home, also drafted by NYI, provided that he is okay with NYI as a team. - Small cap hit when they buying out Dipietro. - Salary cap purposes. Edler costs 5 million a year/Luongo costs 5.3. = ~10 million saved. - Matt Donovan - good AHL stats as a defenseman (45 and 48 pts) -> offensive defenseman Why New York would want this deal: - Getting rid of Dipietro's contract and getting back an upper echelon goaltender in return, in lieu of UFA Nabokov - Luongo's cap hit is 5.3 million, a bargain when it comes to goaltenders of his calibre. Furthermore, NYI owner saves money because most of Luongo's front-loaded contract has been paid by Vancouver, leaving the remaining amounts much more manageable. - Edler is an established defenseman, with proven production. He will help ensure that NYI stays playoff bound. - Moves back a little in the 1st round but still able to make a draft pick in the 1st round. - Getting something of worth for Donovan, which seems to be a good pick by NYI in the 4th round. Matt Donovan's profile: http://www.hockeysfu...s/matt_donovan/ Matt Donovan Hometown: Edmond Oklahoma Team: New York Islanders Currently Playing In: Pro Birthday: 1990-05-09 Position: D Eligible for draft: 2008 Shoots: Left Drafted: 2008 Height: 6-0 Acquired: 4th round (96th overall), 2008 Weight: 190 lbs. Prospect Talent Score 7.0 About Prospect Talent Score and Probability of Success» Probability of Success B Talent Analysis Donovan is a big puck-moving defenseman. He makes a great first pass and has great vision. He has the ability to anchor the power play as well. In his first pro season he has shown a lot of improvement in his foot speed and will continue to improve all aspects of his game. Future With his size and offensive upside, he projects as top four offensive-minded defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merely Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I would rather keep Edler than Donovan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You say "Last chance to trade Edler" like we should be getting rid of him. We are overpaying in this deal. Moving up 8 spots isnt worth Edler and the upgrade of Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Depends who we pick with the fifteenth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 You say "Last chance to trade Edler" like we should be getting rid of him. We are overpaying in this deal. Moving up 8 spots isnt worth Edler and the upgrade of Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Overpayment by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 That is the definition of an overpayment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Overpayment by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 So its basically trading Lu to move up 8 spots in the draft, trading Edler for a D man whose full potential isn't as good as Edler is now, and we take on the burden of DiPietro? Yeah no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 How does the trade benefit us next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I said.. last chance to trade Edler before NTC kicks in. After that, Edler has full control over where he goes, which will mean reduced value if one needed to trade him. In a deep draft, moving up 8 spots is VERY significant. Gillis could afford to wheel and deal, if necessary. Or use the pick on a player. Salary cap space is valuable, especially if you need the space to sign some players at reasonable contracts. It's not really overpaying. Canucks gain cap space, they get a budding offensive defenseman and they move up 8 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 To Van: Nino NYI 1st Reinhart Dipietro To NYI: Luongo Edler Schroeder Van 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 So its basically trading Lu to move up 8 spots in the draft, trading Edler for a D man whose full potential isn't as good as Edler is now, and we take on the burden of DiPietro? Yeah no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 How does the trade benefit us next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Cap space compliance, furthermore, we get an offensive defenseman that looks like he is entering his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Cap space. How do you know that Donovan's 'full potential' isn't as good as Edler's? To put it into perspective... The one season that Edler had in AHL was 49 games - he put up 28 points, back in 2006. http://www.hockeydb....y.php?pid=78705 Donovan's numbers are similar and he has put in two full seasons, although Edler was 20 years old at the time when he played in the AHL. I think he has a lot of room for growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 If you want cap space, trade Ballard or Booth. Or just buy them out if you're that desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Ballard has little trade value. We're better off putting him in the roster. Booth is injured and can't be bought out. He can be traded if injury is disclosed. There's only two spaces for amnesty buyouts. Both of those players aren't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You say "Last chance to trade Edler" like we should be getting rid of him. We are overpaying in this deal. Moving up 8 spots isnt worth Edler and the upgrade of Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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