fanfor42 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Expectations are the problem. The Canucks have done well in the last few years. The four teams in the conference finals this year are Boston Pittsburgh LA and Chicago. All Cup winners in the last four years. Canucks have had recent and epic battles with LA Boston and Chicago. Vancouver fans are so freaked out by the fact that their team has never won a cup that they have lost all patience and ability to support their team in a way that helps them get to that goal. Here is Pittsburgh losing to Boston. Pitt is a great team, but they are losing to Boston. Here is Chicago beating LA. Again LA is a very good team that is getting beaten by Chicago. In Vancouver we have no patience. We forget that we have had great battles with these same teams in recent years. We have a team that has been at or near the top of the league for several years but what do we do? We freak out that the Canucks have lost in the first round when our expectations were higher. Prior to 2012 LA sucked in the playoffs. Chicago had dismal years prior to winning the Cup. Boston likewise had some bad years and remember lost in the first round last year. WTF Canuck fans? Why is it that our team is given such a short leash here? Oh and the guy who posts first in response to this thread needs to know that I expect a thoughtful response. not just the usual CDC first reply negative comment by an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 You are calling the Canucks / LA series an epic battle? LOL! This team has been given such a short leash because the core group is aging and we have very few prospects that are going to come up and fill those holes. Also expectations are not the problem, they are just another excuse for the Canucks failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Oh and the guy who posts first in response to this thread needs to know that I expect a thoughtful response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghewlash Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Am I the second poster yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Expectations are the problem. Vancouver fans are so freaked out by the fact that their team has never won a cup that they have lost all patience and ability to support their team in a way that helps them get to that goal. In Vancouver we have no patience. WTF Canuck fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 43 years says WTF better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Should we expect them not to win a cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Expectations are the problem. The Canucks have done well in the last few years. The four teams in the conference finals this year are Boston Pittsburgh LA and Chicago. All Cup winners in the last four years. Canucks have had recent and epic battles with LA Boston and Chicago. Vancouver fans are so freaked out by the fact that their team has never won a cup that they have lost all patience and ability to support their team in a way that helps them get to that goal. Here is Pittsburgh losing to Boston. Pitt is a great team, but they are losing to Boston. Here is Chicago beating LA. Again LA is a very good team that is getting beaten by Chicago. In Vancouver we have no patience. We forget that we have had great battles with these same teams in recent years. We have a team that has been at or near the top of the league for several years but what do we do? We freak out that the Canucks have lost in the first round when our expectations were higher. Prior to 2012 LA sucked in the playoffs. Chicago had dismal years prior to winning the Cup. Boston likewise had some bad years and remember lost in the first round last year. WTF Canuck fans? Why is it that our team is given such a short leash here? Oh and the guy who posts first in response to this thread needs to know that I expect a thoughtful response. not just the usual CDC first reply negative comment by an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Here is Pittsburgh losing to Boston. Pitt is a great team, but they are losing to Boston. Here is Chicago beating LA. Again LA is a very good team that is getting beaten by Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 Thanks for the thoughtful comments. CDC needs to make more of them. If we want the Canucks to win a cup we need to grow as a fan base into a force for positive results from our team. Once Canucks fans are ready for a winner we will have one. Hey CDC Apples, Deniro, Lemons, Grapefruits and all the fruits etc etc... Lead the fans to a positive place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Should we expect them not to win a cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 i'm been here forever and not such a shallow fan as to poo poo the team because it runs into some bad times...fans who can't be fans anymore because their ego's have been bruised, aren't really that desireable....tradeable even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Joe,I am born in B.C.,am in my 50's and I have watched the Canucks since 1970. One has to have a desire to love hockey but not expect the Canucks to win a cup-as in ever. The cup isn't that desirable ,anyways,is it? Poo poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 we all expect the canucks to win the cup......they haven't won it yet but have come close....hopefully we will get back there but regardless of who runs this team, there are no guarantees.....we can expect the team to play to the best of their abilities but, they either win it or they don't....nothing that we can say or do will ever change that..... if this teams doesn't win in the next 10 years, do we all stop believing in the team?....if i have to do that, that will be when, i stop being a fan..... as a fan, i have opinions, but they don't hold a candle to the people that run this team....perhaps other cdc'ers know more than them but i'm not one of them.....but i'm still a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 when they have added the pieces they hope will turn the team around they will try again to win a cup.....will they win a cup in the next 10 years?.....who knows?,,,,,expect them to try their best to win it..... i'm not holding my breath that they will win it in my life time....but i will remain their #one fan..... if gillis fails, someone else will try, and then somebody else.....if it's win or nothing, then we may be stuck with nothing for years. management has to stay under the cap, trade lu, become tougher, and better at face offs....they need to find secondary scoring...personally, i wish them luck, it isn't going to be easy, unless you listen to the cdc GM's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Unfortunately for Canucks fans we have had over four decades to watch other teams win cups. Fortunately for me ,I have a love for the game and near zero expectations the Canucks will ever win a cup. One has to be a realist to remain a Canucks fan.It really is all business with the thrill of a deep run every decade or so. I enjoy watching other teams competing for the cup during playoffs,especially when it is played with skill and heart and not dirty or decided by bad calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 My point was that why would we expect our team to lose? It is not the fans fault that the team does not win. And I would be happy if this team tried their hardest to win (even if they ultimately lost). What I can't tolerate though is that they DON'T try their best to win, especially not the last two seasons. Even an optimist like you must see that there were not very many consistently good full-game efforts from the Canucks the past two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 we all expect the canucks to win the cup......they haven't won it yet but have come close....hopefully we will get back there but regardless of who runs this team, there are no guarantees.....(1)we can expect the team to play to the best of their abilities but, they either win it or they don't....nothing that we can say or do will ever change that..... (2)if this teams doesn't win in the next 10 years, do we all stop believing in the team?....if i have to do that, that will be when, i stop being a fan..... as a fan, i have opinions, but they don't hold a candle to the people that run this team....(3)perhaps other cdc'ers know more than them but i'm not one of them.....(4)but i'm still a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970 and beyond Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Why is it that our team is given such a short leash here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 1) "But" what? You didn't complete the sentence, just left it hanging there. "They either win it or they don't" is a parody of obvious cliche. When we expect the Canucks to win -- or more accurately in the context the OP is using, compete hard -- we also, if we're passionate fans, become frustrated when one more year goes by, not just because it's one more year without a Cup, but because opportunities like the Canucks have had in the past three years don't come along year after year. In fact, when you look at TO, for example, or other perennial sad-sack franchises throughout the league, you realize that very shortly, we may be in that same yearly funk, as in our 70s team, most of our 80s teams, and our late 90s teams. 2) Who's saying they're "giving up" on the Canucks? Because fans criticize some (or even many) aspect(s) of the team doesn't mean they've quit "believing" in them, whatever that means. I've been a fan since before the Canucks' NHL inception, going to the PNE Forum in the 60s and cheering on the teams' Western League championships. Fans occasionally get angry, or at least highly frustrated, because they're passionate. Take a look around the league. The Canucks, the Leafs, Les Canadiens, the Jets, the Rangers -- long historical background of hockey, knowledgeable fans who are tuned in to the game, and the team. Would you rather the Canucks played in Carolina, where the few fans who make it out to the arena just take it as a pleasant and occasional diversion, OK with whatever management or the players do? Passion means the celebrations are more ecstatic, but it also means holding the team much more accountable than other cities where hockey is #47 on televised sports options. 3) This is your typical passive-aggessive retort which you use in virtually every single post you throw out there. What does it mean? This is a hockey forum. As such, the members here discuss and debate differences of opinion. Without those differences to discuss, the forum becomes nothing more than a boring cheerleading adjunct that the organization can promote and quote from to sell more merchandise. When the OP (in this case) creates a post that says, in essence, "the Canucks are a great team, we compete hard, and we should just be happy to have a team at all", it stimulates obvious counterpoints and spinoffs. This thread-starter doesn't even discuss management particulars, so I don't know where the "they know more than all CDCers" argument comes from. Yeah, they know more than us. That's not the point. Does Gillis and co know more than most other GMs around the league? That's the appropriate question. 4) A few posts up, you said you were the Canucks #1 fan. I would never be so arrogant as to suggest I'm the Canucks best fan. Perhaps this is your way of saying that, like Gillis who knows more than the rest of CDC in how to run a hockey team, you know more about the rest of CDC in how to be a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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