jagori78 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Looking back at the trade in 1998. The Canucks were searching for a new identity, and traded the face of the franchise Trevor Linden (28yo) for Bertuzzi (22yo), McCabe (22yo) and a 3rd. Looking back, it was obviously a steal; yet what would that trade look like today with similar comparibles? Today, Ryan Kesler is also 28, and some could argue his on-ice contributions are similar to what Trevor Linden brought. Zach Kassian is 22, same as Bertuzzi was at the trade. He has accomplished pretty much the same as Bertuzzi had at that point as well, as a mid 1st rounder. Maybe a Josh Bailey is another similar valued asset. McCabe was a huge, yet slow, physical talented defeseman. A mid 2nd round pick. Similar to Travis Hamonic, perhaps. So... if you could use this deal as a template for player value again, and even picked the same teams? Would you trade Ryan Kesler for Josh Bailey and Travis Hamonic? Or is the value way off? -Jagori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underrated Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 The real key to the success of that deal is that we traded McCabe for a Sedin. So essentially it was Linden for Bertuzzi, Sedin and 3rd (Jarkko Ruutu). All of those players panned out perfectly for us. Hamonic and Bailey could pan out but you never know. We are solid on D so I personally wouldn't do that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Except i don't think we will get Kesler back like we were able to do in Linden's case. Plus the value is off there would have to be a first and i would be down IF we are rebuilding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I'd do it only if we could then flip Edler for Couturier. Sedin-Sedin-Kassian Booth-Couturier-Burrows Higgins-Bailey-Hansen Sestito-Lain-Weise Hamhuis-Bieksa Garrison-Hamonic Alberts-Tanev Schneids Looks ok to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo Fring Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Terrible deal. Kesler is worth more than those players and their potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 So what we are doing is Kesler for Bailey and Hamonic? Who replaces Kesler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Great thread. Nice to see a well thought out, interesting topic for discussion every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Bailey sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Moody Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Linden was only 28 when we made that trade? I guess I never really thought about it... My god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 No. The trade sucks. And you posted in the wrong section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 No. The trade sucks. And you posted in the wrong section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Bailey is a bad comparison. I'd say Nino Niederreiter is more accurate. Struggling young forward with tremendous upside. Niederreiter+Hamonic for Kesler? Definitely worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 MG doesn't have the balls to trade Kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Either MG does not have gonads or nobody in the NHL wants to talk to him. The Luo fiasco is a painful charade. I am actually curious to see if Gillis can make a Luo trade that truly benefits the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 No not Kesler! - Everyone on CDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 So I guess we're blowing it up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Didn't Kesler once say he wants to play his whole career with the Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NP-4815162342 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 No Kesler healthy year will be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Except Kesler isn't a leader like Linden was. That counts for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewdog Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I'll agree that the Linden trade worked out very well for us. In today's NHL, though, Kesler is probably the last Canuck I would consider trading. Young, physical, 30-goal, two-way centers who can win draws are way too valuable. I would probably only trade Kesler for a monster defenseman (Norris quality) or as part of a package for an even better center (Malkin, Toews etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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