Captain Obvious: "The Problem isn't our Lineup, It's our Lineup Always Being Injured."

[TOMapleLaughs]

Our lineup, "when healthy", is/was formidable. But that's just it... "When healthy." And they rarely are a complete group these days. Injuries were a huge factor for us during the 2011 run. Meanwhile, certain other teams seem to get the bulk of their players to be healthy all season and playoffs with relative ease.

Wondering if Faq/Gillis will attempt something else to address this issue? Esp. when they've seen it as a problem that needs addressing already:

Last summer Faq hired that world renowned sports psychologist, Bruno Demichelis, who's famous for turning Chelsea FC's banged-up stars into relatively bulletproof powerhouses. (A move which ultimately blew up in his face, as the feds deemed his job was able to be done by Canadians and his work permit was denied, and now Demichelis is seeking damages.) This move showed that they're willing to go outside the box to get this team working on all cylinders.

Has that period of spending come to pass? If so, i feel that adding disinterest in improving this team will only add to the speed of it's decline.

I'm certain there are interesting methods that these other teams employ to get their players to be healthy when needed. Regardless of how it happens, i sure hope this team starts staying healthy soon.

-Captain Obvious

[Xbox]

We were pretty healthy these playoffs and we couldn't even win a game!

[Aladeen]

Fire all the trainers and medical staff!

[MJDDawg]

Health WAS a problem in the past.

Now the problem IS the lineup.

[Canucks fan in chicago]

The problem with this team is Mike Gillis.

[Xbox]

The problem with this team is Mike Gillis.

[almo89]

The TheThe problem is that they don't have anybody else that can score outside of the Sedins. Point production wise, the Sedins aren't that bad in the playoffs. Just take a look at Toews and Kane. The issue is that the Canucks expect the Sedins to do ALL of the scoring. The teams that succeed in the playoffs have all lines that can chip in. Secondary scoring has always been an issue. Kesler is supposed to be that guy, but he's way too hot and cold.

[-DLC-]

Thank you for making sense. That's in short supply here some days.

I (agree wholeheartedly)

I, too, have wondered if there's something lacking....perhaps in the training regime? Some is simply bad luck but, overall, can they do more to offset this issue?

A great thread, I applaud it.

[Ghostsof1915]

My concern is not so much the trainers but our doctors. Hodgson has his back issues mis-diagnosed. Last year they go in thinking Daniel would be ready to go for the start of the playoffs. Kesler and Booth come back from injury and get injured again right away. (Were they really 100% ready to play?)

I'm concerned not only about diagnoses, but recovery times seem to be always in error.

[Monty]

When healthy, the Canucks are still not the best team in the NHL. Their current lineup is not good enough to go the distance anymore. I'm not a homer nor do I hate the Canucks. Realistically, they're just not the team to beat anymore. Hate to say it, but their time has come and gone.

[D-Money]

Thing is, once players have suffered serious injuries, chances are they'll continue to be injury-plagued for the remainder of their career. Especially if they have had muscle-injuries.

The chances of guys like Kesler, Booth, Bieksa, and Ballard all staying healthy for a long season and playoffs are very slim.

[D-Money]

When healthy, the Canucks are still not the best team in the NHL. Their current lineup is not good enough to go the distance anymore. I'm not a homer nor do I hate the Canucks. Realistically, they're just not the team to beat anymore. Hate to say it, but their time has come and gone.

[poetica]

My concern is not so much the trainers but our doctors. Hodgson has his back issues mis-diagnosed. Last year they go in thinking Daniel would be ready to go for the start of the playoffs. Kesler and Booth come back from injury and get injured again right away. (Were they really 100% ready to play?)

I'm concerned not only about diagnoses, but recovery times seem to be always in error.

[TheRussianRocket.]

My concern is not so much the trainers but our doctors. Hodgson has his back issues mis-diagnosed. Last year they go in thinking Daniel would be ready to go for the start of the playoffs. Kesler and Booth come back from injury and get injured again right away. (Were they really 100% ready to play?)

I'm concerned not only about diagnoses, but recovery times seem to be always in error.

[DeNiro]

You know why big teams go deeper in the playoffs? It's because they don't get banged around as much because they're hard to hit and knock over.

It's not rocket science. Big tough teams dish out the hits. Smaller skilled teams take the hits. Over the course of the regular season, and the playoffs, the smaller team is gonna wear down more. That's the reality of playoff hockey.

It's why the Bruins are gonna win another cup. Too much size and skill for teams to handle.

[poetica]

DeNiro, don't you think the reffing comes into play with that? You get near some teams' players and get called. You want to decapitate Burrows? Just don't make a mess on the ice.

[DeNiro]

DeNiro, don't you think the reffing comes into play with that? You get near some teams' players and get called. You want to decapitate Burrows? Just don't make a mess on the ice.

[Dogbyte]

I agree 100% but not in the exact same light.

Our team is built to sustain injuries ,keep ticking without much thought, and keep winning.

It's why Gillis has 7 wingers for 6 spots. Sedin, Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Kassian, Hansen, Raymond (all top 9). It works great during the regular season when one player goes down another takes his spot. Problem is when everyone's healthy one or two guys are playing out of postion and only 2-3 of those guys have set spots. It's hard for average players to excel in that situation. It's why we suck at the start of the year when most teams are healthy. We are less talented than other teams in Oct but once there are injuries around the league we have no drop off and start racking up the wins.

Problem is once playoffs hit, a fourth liner or fringe player can bring just as much as Raymond, Higgins, Hansen, etc.

I appreciate and I was amazed by the depth MG was able to build but in the end I think it's a waste and there is a reason other GM's don't do it. It would be far better in my opinion to trade in 2-3 of those guys for a bonifide big time player that plays all the games in a set postion (second line RW) . High profile players tend not to get injured ... it's part of being good. I would rather have a guy like Evander Kane on the second line and give up Higgins, Raymond, and Hansen and be forced to dress Sweatt, or Jensen on the third line.

[DeNiro]

I appreciate and I was amazed by the depth MG was able to build but in the end I think it's a waste and there is a reason other GM's don't do it. It would be far better in my opinion to trade in 2-3 of those guys for a bonifide big time player that plays all the games in a set postion (second line RW) . High profile players tend not to get injured ... it's part of being good. I would rather have a guy like Evander Kane on the second line and give up Higgins, Raymond, and Hansen and be forced to dress Sweatt, or Jensen on the third line.

[nuck nit]

Luo had a history of groin issues and the team rode him into the ice,used him up and allowed the media to trash him into giving it up here,which suited the GM that created/signed his bogus contract.

Cory had what can now be deemed to be a serious groin injury and yet the team iced him for games 3 and 4,although Luo was playing good enough for the team to win.

This team does not have depth and is not good enough and when injuries occur the guys are not recovered and forced to play-Daniel Sedin,Kesler in spades, Booth,Ballard and on it goes.

D-Money explained it well in the post above.

The problem is not injuries it is NO DEPTH to relieve the injured.