aGENT Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Really? He looks trim and solid in the core. But... I look at that pick, look at his guns, or lack thereof & wonder how seriously he takes the whole thing? Big arms/shoulders would be a detriment to his game. Hunter needs a solid core and legs like tree trunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Really? He looks trim and solid in the core. But... I look at that pick, look at his guns, or lack thereof & wonder how seriously he takes the whole thing? Its not all about size, take a look at Gaudreau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Its not all about size, take a look at Gaudreau. Does Hunter play the same game as him though? Gaudreau is like Kane. I don't see Hunter like that. Isn't he more of a scorer than a passer, who needs to get to the net to be most effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 You do realize Sam couldn't do chin ups because of the buggered up shoulder he never told anyone about and that subsequently needed surgery right? sure...but they both have tiny arms and the chin up contest wouldn't last past one or two by the looks of it. Does not mean they can't be successful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 sure...but they both have tiny arms and the chin up contest wouldn't last past one or two by the looks of it. Does not mean they can't be successful though. It's the size of the heart (figuratively) not the biceps. Does Hinter have that heart to compete at all costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Does Hunter play the same game as him though? Gaudreau is like Kane. I don't see Hunter like that. Isn't he more of a scorer than a passer, who needs to get to the net to be most effective?Pat Kane has his own type of game that nobody can really replicate. Shinkaruk has the drive to score like Gaudreau. But he's also more of a playmaker than scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Shink and Hutton both look 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Pat Kane has his own type of game that nobody can really replicate. Shinkaruk has the drive to score like Gaudreau. But he's also more of a playmaker than scorer. Thanks. I sure am excited about seeing him get a shot on the big club. I heard he can play with an edge, is that accurate? It would be great if it was part of his game too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Thanks. I sure am excited about seeing him get a shot on the big club. I heard he can play with an edge, is that accurate? It would be great if it was part of his game too! The other teams thinking "hey that's cute, hes trying to play with an edge". I like the way he CAN play but like everyone says physically he's just not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think his fiestiness may win some puck battles. His skating is really good, which may lead to less turnovers. Not the fastest guy, but his 8 way mobility is top notch. Kind of like Jeff Skinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Big arms/shoulders would be a detriment to his game. Hunter needs a solid core and legs like tree trunks. Not true. Don't get me wrong. Piling up protein shakes and putting on weight is not what I am talking about. Did little for Zack Kassian I might add. Look at the forearms on Daniel Sedin? More sinew and fibre than you might see in a big pile of steaks. Even though he's skinny. But absolutely, well trained fast twitch muscle mass is rarely a detriment. Acquired across a range of motion, under tension & at varying degree's of exertion, exhaustion. These programs are available. That said, yes you can make up for a lot with heart. Those forearms still need to hold the puck against the boards under the duress of very big guys banging on your stick. Its not all about size, take a look at Gaudreau. Gaudreau has a level of quickness, deceptive explosive quickness & hand eye coordination observed in his stick work, shared by few peers if any. Patrick Kane? Shinkaruk seemed to have a lot of that in junior? Maybe it was his injuries. One fact is true though. The margin where you are quicker and faster in pro is much smaller. Guys are trained better, to a much higher degree of dedication. Where it was an advantage in junior, see the comments by UticaHockey, Shinkaruk is not able to bake and shake > lose his defenders. When I see pictures like that, see these comments; I worry that his competitors have caught up to a level of athletic ability which was once an advantage for him. Its not just size. Lets see where he is at once training camp opens? I'll happily pound salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think his fiestiness may win some puck battles. His skating is really good, which may lead to less turnovers. Not the fastest guy, but his 8 way mobility is top notch. Kind of like Jeff Skinner. I have not heard this term before: 8 way mobility. Please explain it? Thanks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 decades and no cup Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Not true. Don't get me wrong. Piling up protein shakes and putting on weight is not what I am talking about. Did little for Zack Kassian I might add. Look at the forearms on Daniel Sedin? More sinew and fibre than you might see in a big pile of steaks. Even though he's skinny. But absolutely, well trained fast twitch muscle mass is rarely a detriment. Acquired across a range of motion, under tension & at varying degree's of exertion, exhaustion. These programs are available. That said, yes you can make up for a lot with heart. Those forearms still need to hold the puck against the boards under the duress of very big guys banging on your stick. Gaudreau has a level of quickness, deceptive explosive quickness & hand eye coordination observed in his stick work, shared by few peers if any. Patrick Kane? Shinkaruk seemed to have a lot of that in junior? Maybe it was his injuries. One fact is true though. The margin where you are quicker and faster in pro is much smaller. Guys are trained better, to a much higher degree of dedication. Where it was an advantage in junior, see the comments by UticaHockey, Shinkaruk is not able to bake and shake > lose his defenders. When I see pictures like that, see these comments; I worry that his competitors have caught up to a level of athletic ability which was once an advantage for him. Its not just size. Lets see where he is at once training camp opens? I'll happily pound salt. I have had some of the same concerns for Shinks and I really hope it's off base. He seemed to pick up his level of play towards the end of the season, so I'm hoping it was a mobility issue due to the surgery during the offseason. The guy appears to have a lot of heart, so it will be intersting to see how he shapes up at training camp. Besides Bo, he was the best prospect at camp last year, so this year's performance at camp will be a good indicator to where he sits on the prospect list. The next two seasons will be tough for Shinks, as he will be likely competing for the same spot as Sven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Not true. Don't get me wrong. Look at the forearms on Daniel Sedin? More sinew and fibre than you might see in a big pile of steaks. Even though he's skinny. Where exactly did my comment contradict that? Adding a bunch of upper body bulk would not be helpful. He certainly will need to get stronger up there but bulk is the opposite of what he should be doing with his upper body. His core and legs however should be a chunk of carved granite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliewud Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Im really disappointed with that picture of hunter. He needs to put in the work on his upper body if he wants to compete at the NHL level. I'm not saying he needs to be a body builder, but he needs another 10-15lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Building physical strength takes time. Hunter is only 20 years old and that is still very young as far as physical maturity goes for a lot of people. You need to give the guy at least a few years to develop athletic strength that works for him. Not everyone has the genes of a Bo Horvat (early physical maturity) and considering Hunter's style of play, I doubt he is interested in just trying to build muscle mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 he needs to get bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 he needs to get bigger Notice MSL's upper body looks almost cartoonishly small compared to hos legs and core... He's certainly fit in his upper body but he's not big. And I agree with Goose, that^^ takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 he needs to get bigger yup, little guys need to get as heavy as possible, while keeping their skill, quickness, and speed. I wonder at what age that happened for St. Louis? It might take Shinkaruk until he's 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 yup, little guys need to get as heavy as possible, while keeping their skill, quickness, and speed. I wonder at what age that happened for St. Louis? It might take Shinkaruk until he's 22? St.Louis didn't play his first full season in the NHL until he was 25. Hunter's got plenty of time to bulk up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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