Derp... Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 How does Gaunce moving to LW affect Hunters chance at making the Canucks? Who would a bottom 6 roster spot go to? 2015/16 D Sedin Baertschi Higgins Kenins Prust Gaunce Shinkaruk That's a ridiculous amount of people with only 1-2 expected to leave after this year. 2016-2017 (If we trade Higgins) D Sedin Baertschi Kenins Gaunce Shinkaruk Fox Blomstrand When is there going to be a spot for this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 How does Gaunce moving to LW affect Hunters chance at making the Canucks? Who would a bottom 6 roster spot go to? 2015/16 D Sedin Baertschi Higgins Kenins Prust Gaunce Shinkaruk That's a ridiculous amount of people with only 1-2 expected to leave after this year. 2016-2017 (If we trade Higgins) D Sedin Baertschi Kenins Gaunce Shinkaruk Fox BlomstrandWhen is there going to be a spot for this guy? When he bullies his way in and takes a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 How does Gaunce moving to LW affect Hunters chance at making the Canucks? Who would a bottom 6 roster spot go to? 2015/16 D Sedin Baertschi Higgins Kenins Prust Gaunce Shinkaruk That's a ridiculous amount of people with only 1-2 expected to leave after this year. 2016-2017 (If we trade Higgins) D Sedin Baertschi Kenins Gaunce Shinkaruk Fox Blomstrand When is there going to be a spot for this guy? I can't see both Gaunce and Shinkaruk being in the Canucks organization in a year from now. You're correct about the LW being a bit of a log jam. Apart from D. Sedin and Higgins (whom Benning has publicly supported), Baertschi and Kennis are Benning's guys whereas Gaunce and Shinkaruk are Gillis' prospects. Moreover, there have been legitimate rumours that Benning has already tried to trade Shinkaruk (at the 2014 draft). And Gaunce's chances a center seem even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 How does Gaunce moving to LW affect Hunters chance at making the Canucks? Who would a bottom 6 roster spot go to? 2015/16 D Sedin Baertschi Higgins Kenins Prust Gaunce Shinkaruk That's a ridiculous amount of people with only 1-2 expected to leave after this year. 2016-2017 (If we trade Higgins) D Sedin Baertschi Kenins Gaunce Shinkaruk Fox Blomstrand When is there going to be a spot for this guy? Fox and Blomstrand most likely won't play a large role with the Canucks and Kenins style of allows him to play either wing Daniel. Baertshi Shinkaruk Gaunce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 How does Gaunce moving to LW affect Hunters chance at making the Canucks? Who would a bottom 6 roster spot go to? 2015/16 D Sedin Baertschi Higgins Kenins Prust Gaunce Shinkaruk That's a ridiculous amount of people with only 1-2 expected to leave after this year. 2016-2017 (If we trade Higgins) D Sedin Baertschi Kenins Gaunce Shinkaruk Fox Blomstrand When is there going to be a spot for this guy? Fox and Blomstrand most likely won't play a large role with the Canucks and Kenins style of allows him to play either wing Daniel. Baertshi Shinkaruk Gaunce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 decades and no cup Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The Baertschi experiment may fail. Sedin Shinks Gaunce Kennins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The Baertschi experiment may fail. Sedin Shinks Gaunce Kenninsas may the shinkaruk experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 15/16: Sedin Sedin Burrows Baertschi Sutter Vrbata Higgins Horvat Hansen Prust Vey Dorsett Kenins, Virtanen 16/17: Sedin Sedin Virtanen Baertschi Horvat Vey Shinkaruk Sutter Hansen Kenins (Cassels eventually) Dorsett Gaunce, Grenier I don't see Vrbata (contract expiring next year), Burrows (35), or Higgins (34) in this team's long term plans. Granted, going THAT young THAT quickly might hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 nhl players don't need to become bodybuilders to play NHL. I mean look at the combine the players bench a 45 plate! However, they need to have strong legs and from those pics you can't see the legs. A strong lower body is far more important in the NHL, so yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I can't see both Gaunce and Shinkaruk being in the Canucks organization in a year from now. You're correct about the LW being a bit of a log jam. Apart from D. Sedin and Higgins (whom Benning has publicly supported), Baertschi and Kennis are Benning's guys whereas Gaunce and Shinkaruk are Gillis' prospects. Moreover, there have been legitimate rumours that Benning has already tried to trade Shinkaruk (at the 2014 draft). And Gaunce's chances a center seem even worse.Kennins was a Gillis guy, but i do agree with you about Gaunce and Shink they will have to overachieve to beat out Bennings guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Kennins was a Gillis guy, but i do agree with you about Gaunce and Shink they will have to overachieve to beat out Bennings guys. You're correct, my mistake. I strongly believe Benning thinks highly of himself as a scout and judge of talent and thus he is going to be much more likely to give his prospects breaks that others may not get. And of course he will likely be more willing to trade Gillis' prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You're correct, my mistake. I strongly believe Benning thinks highly of himself as a scout and judge of talent and thus he is going to be much more likely to give his prospects breaks that others may not get. And of course he will likely be more willing to trade Gillis' prospects. What evidence do you have of this prejudice? I think that Benning has been fair and objective in his dealings. He freely moved Forsling, Clendening and Bonino who were all his pick ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Phooey Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What evidence do you have of this? I think that Benning has been fair and objective in his dealings. He freely moved Forsling, Clendening and Bonino who were all his pick ups. Add to your point Crabcakes, the re-signings of Tanev, Markstrom, Corrado, Subban, Hutton, Cannata, Biega, Grenier, Labate and Friesen. The only prospects that have been cut loose by Benning are Schroeder, McNally, Liberati, Archibald, Tommernes, Mallet, Andersonn. CDC...the place where people come to talk out of their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What evidence do you have of this prejudice? I think that Benning has been fair and objective in his dealings. He freely moved Forsling, Clendening and Bonino who were all his pick ups. I think generally speaking any GM would prefer their own prospects to the previous GMs prospects. Especially, when the previous GM was known for poor drafting and development and the Benning was brought in to remedy this through his background as a scout. As far as trades go that favour Bennings' own prospects, that would be a dishonest exercise at this point in time because it would bias him trading Gillis' prospects purely because there are more of Gillis' prospects. Moreover, there really hasn't been enough trades concerning legitimate NHL prospects made by Benning yet. I'm not saying he is going to bury Gillis' prospects if they are good. Of course he wants the best players. Rather that it is natural for him to value his own propsect over the previous GM's prospects (of course relative to drafting position, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You're correct, my mistake. I strongly believe Benning thinks highly of himself as a scout and judge of talent and thus he is going to be much more likely to give his prospects breaks that others may not get. And of course he will likely be more willing to trade Gillis' prospects. 100% disagree. I think a GM that isn't a a born scout would do what you described. A GM that fully understands a diamond in the rough and is able to gauge talent when he see's it is more likely to take advantage of prospects that have potential no matter where they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 We'll just have to see how this all plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 100% disagree. I think a GM that isn't a a born scout would do what you described. A GM that fully understands a diamond in the rough and is able to gauge talent when he see's it is more likely to take advantage of prospects that have potential no matter where they came from. This is the way it should be. I think we should reserve judgement on Benning until he gets rid of a prospect who wasn't "his" just because. You could argue about Kassian but I think there were lots of good reasons for making that trade. Lack as well, but Markstrom was a Gillis find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This is the way it should be. I think we should reserve judgement on Benning until he gets rid of a prospect who wasn't "his" just because. You could argue about Kassian but I think there were lots of good reasons for making that trade. Lack as well, but Markstrom was a Gillis find. Kassian was traded because he didn't promote a good environment for young players, peticularly Jake to learn in. Lack was an gamble. He chose the back up he felt had a higher ceiling. I agree with the trade, that being said I was incredibly disappointed when we traded lack. My girl was ready planning on ordering a Lack jersey for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Kassian was traded because he didn't promote a good environment for young players, peticularly Jake to learn in. Lack was an gamble. He chose the back up he felt had a higher ceiling. I agree with the trade, that being said I was incredibly disappointed when we traded lack. My girl was ready planning on ordering a Lack jersey for next year. Kassian also wasn't taking the steps he needed to take with the team. Lack was definitely a gamble. The decision of trading Lack and keeping Markstrom is his riskiest move so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You're correct, my mistake. I strongly believe Benning thinks highly of himself as a scout and judge of talent and thus he is going to be much more likely to give his prospects breaks that others may not get. And of course he will likely be more willing to trade Gillis' prospects. No GM of an NHL team is going to snub or trade a good prospect drafted by the previous regime for no other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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