In the Slot Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 MG out GM'ed by NHL13 again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Slot Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I appericate the majority of what you are trying to say. Essentially being a general manager of a NHL team is different, and far more complex, then being a general manager of a NHL game. In addition, it is one thing to be an angry fan, whom is always complaining and dictates everything by winning. This is terrible, and irrational thinking. Has Gillis made some critical mistakes in his five years? Yes. However, hindsight is 20/20 and to be honest, it's not all Gillis's fault. We are talking about many people involved in the day-to-day workings of a hockey club. You have Gillis, who is the main guy and in the spot light, yes; however, there are scouts who has the sole job of finding prospects and NHL players who fit the Canucks system. It's Gillis who takes this advice and acts. To be fair to Gillis, he has signed a lot of the core Canucks roster to under-value prices--yes they have NTC--but that is how you get players to sign cheaper, and it's not like they will not waive their NTC, they just want the right team/destination. In my opinion, I argue Gillis's biggest mistake was his goalie handleing. He waited too long, and was very unprofessional during the process. Yes, he can say the CBA changed, etc...but he should have known changes were coming. Nevertheless, I don't see Gillis as being the best general manager ever, but he's certainly not the worse either. The Kassian trade, still has a lot of upside and time will tell. It's unfair to say the trade was terrible, let alone even comment because we don't know the full story. What if Cody wanted out? What if he had issues with his ice-time? This is Gillis's fault? Hardly. The Ballard trade? Awful. Yes. But, how was anyone really to know Ballard would play poorly, and Grabner would become a 30 goal scorer. Perhaps the pro scouts missed that? Maybe Gillis just wanted to resolve our need for a defensemen at the time... Plus, general managers have to get just about everything approved by ownership, they must be responsible for the sales, sponsorship, and handling the AHL matters. There is a lot of backroom work, which us fans could care less about. I would say Gillis has done well with a lot of these matters. There is more to being a general manager than signing, trading and drafting. Plus, it's not a dictatorship--there are advisors, assistants, scouts, ownership, all who have a say in every choice made in a hockey club. Not counting the tedious negotation between agents and their players over ice-time, contracts, leadership and community involvement. Gillis knows better than most, he was an agent, and a very good one at that. It's fair to be critical of Gillis, I am not saying that; however, I am saying think before trolling and making reasonable claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 To summarize: real life GMing ISN'T like NHL 13? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Why isn't anybody answering the real question here? Case in point, I did not ask my text box to underline anything. I just started typing and... wtf? Enter key has no effect. Cannot turn the underlining off. Abort. Abort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Hockey is a game, NHL13 is a game. NHL13 = Real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Jack Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I love your version of 'taking the high road', superstar. You've been on these boards long enough to know better. Wise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I agree. Good post. Even read the wall of text version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 For those having trouble typing, at home, I usually use IE8 to browse, and I have problems with the enter key when posting here. Switched to Firefox, and it works fine. I had other problems in past couple years using IE for CDC; this just seems to be the latest issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch16 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 For those having trouble typing, at home, I usually use IE8 to browse, and I have problems with the enter key when posting here. Switched to Firefox, and it works fine. I had other problems in past couple years using IE for CDC; this just seems to be the latest issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 I read the entire OP and see the point of many posters assumption of GMMG should be pulling the trigger to get all the top guys available and build this team to win now. Definitely easier said than done given this years off-season situation. BUT I got to agree. In any of the rebuts to the responses to the OP you have done anything but take the "high road". In fact I expect the Excavator and dynamite to appear to see how low can you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 love that statement 'hindsight' ok well i want to work in an environment where i get paid millions, my bad decisions don't matter because they are simply called 'hindsight' and we just focus on the good things i've done. ITS CALLED A TRACK RECORD FOLKS - its how the real world works. Maybe you work in a union where you can't be fired but most people who compete every day have their managers/bosses look at their record from the past year in 'HINDSIGHT' to evaluate them the world changes, industries change, its a LEADER'S job to think strategically, anticipate changes and not handcuff his organization. not make stupid decisions and then say 'ah damn, we didn't see it coming its not our fault' that's MG's and MG apologists absurd rationale. if they constantly f'up and its a trend, they get fired. unless of course its a union and you live in bc and vote ndp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyknukles Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 In video game hockey the sedins hit and fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 In video game hockey the sedins hit and fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Are you really still here? Well now I just feel sad for you lad. Tell you what, why don't you start a topic and show everyone how it's done. Better yet, why don't you volunteer to help manage your local minor hockey team, work your way up and maybe get noticed (for your obvious management prowess) by a Junior team (as I did). Then see what I am talking about. Some folks on here think it is so dang easy to be the GM, because they win the SC every night in their living room. What they need to appreciate is how unbelievably freakin' challenging it is to be successful as one. They have no clue, quit frankly. And sadly, there is a generation coming up that feels the need to criticize everything because either 1/ they didn't think of it 2/ they don't understand it or 3/ they don't respect from where it came. I feel sad for the future of the world...and I feel sad that I get dragged down into it. So quite frankly I am done with you and your type. I can rise above this, why don't you join me on the high road instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 For those having trouble typing, at home, I usually use IE8 to browse, and I have problems with the enter key when posting here. Switched to Firefox, and it works fine. I had other problems in past couple years using IE for CDC; this just seems to be the latest issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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