Warhippy Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 http://www.capgeek.com/ This is the current cap situation for the entire NHL as it stands, including recent signings and still available UFA's. I find it interesting to see what is going on financially in the NHL in regards to this as the owners that fought the hardest for specific provisions are the ones that spend to or over the cap the fastest. I am posting this and hoping to generate a valid and genuine discussion as to what people think is going to happen. As per most analysts and experts GM's league wide are fielding calls daily looking to move gain or shed cap depending on their teams situation. There are a number of players being discussed on forums and in offices all over North America that could move, still be bought out in the next calendar year or be sunk into LTIR or the minors depending on their productivity regardless of their cap hit. One of the things I find most interesting is the disparity amongst certain teams in regards to their cap situation, recent buyouts and their finish to the season as well as what some are projecting their finishes to be next season. Namely Philli and Winnipeg. These are two teams literally at opposite ends of the spectrum cap wise, yet miles apart in terms of where they finished but very comparable in terms of prospects and projected finishes. So I just really wanted to post this and see how people felt about the first "season" as it was after the lockout and the new cap. How do you all feel about it? Who do you think will add or subtract? How on earth does Holmgren use his two buyouts and manage to be $2 million over the cap? how are the Jets taking 5 players to arbitration with almost $20 million in cap space. Your thoughts???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder__Bread Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Actions speak louder then words and owners will say one thing then contradict it with their actions, it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 It's the same general reasons why I can make half of what some of my friends do yet I have zero debt, run in the black and can operate a profitable business, and they are broke every month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I just thought people would be interested in seeing who had players left to sign who had $ and who was being an idiot with their teams management (Holmgren) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I just thought people would be interested in seeing who had players left to sign who had $ and who was being an idiot with their teams management (Holmgren) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Plenty of us have already made note of the fact there really hasn't been any change other than teams taking advantage of the ability to dump bad contracts and players they wish they hadn't signed. It was apparent after the lockout that the owners didn't learn anything when Getzlaf signed his deal after a pretty mediocre season. The players have to take a look at their part in signing the big contracts too, but the lockout did nothing but waste the fans' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Kesler Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Plenty of us have already made note of the fact there really hasn't been any change other than teams taking advantage of the ability to dump bad contracts and players they wish they hadn't signed. It was apparent after the lockout that the owners didn't learn anything when Getzlaf signed his deal after a pretty mediocre season. The players have to take a look at their part in signing the big contracts too, but the lockout did nothing but waste the fans' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The process of locking out to create more restrictive CBAs will continue until owners and GMs can start acting rationally when signing players. In addition to Getzlaff getting WAYYYY too much money for far too little production, the signing of Clarkson to a 7 year deal worth $5.25 mil per for a player who has scored more than 17 goals JUST ONCE (also happens to be the only time he scored 30) is a head shaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Projected to hit $90 million 2020/2021 or there abouts....rather insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdc Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It is interesting the lower cap hasn't really affected the high end contract values, but rather just made the pay gap between your 'stars' and blue collar players much wider. I would that was the NHLPA's goal prior to the lockout. Good on the Islanders tho, JT locked in at 5.5 for the next 5 years is looking like one of the best contracts in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franksedin Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 The islanders have a ton of cap space and a full roster. They have lots of high draft picks and a number of good prospects. As much as they don't like to spend money they should offer sheet a big RFA d-man, they have lots of offensive help. Go after Pietrangelo, they can burn a few picks for a franchise d. Or target TO and try for Franson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 They would have been much smarter to not drop the cap so much this year but reduce the percentage of revenues used to determine the cap and how much it should rise. Putting some of that into what the players receive back from escrow and even capping the amount they'd have to contribute would be an improvement and setting some aside for pensions and injury insurance would be even better. That'd provide more security for the players based on the deals they could sign and the teams would have less fluctuation in the salary cap from year to year so they could plan better. Banking on the cap raising by over $25M to get key players signed is bad economics. It just leads to higher and higher salaries if the players think they'll actually get less back from owners pushing a hard line with the NHLPA but their GMs throwing around greenbacks like monopoly money. Oh sure, I mentioned Getzlaf as just one post-lockout example. The pre-lockout frenzy for guys like Suter, Parise and Weber on massive back diving contracts is another, considering teams had a pretty good idea those types of contracts were a big reason we were heading to a lockout to begin with. Both sides have to smarten up or they'll run the game into the ground trying to circumvent the rules they put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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