manny malhotra

[Kragar]

Gillis pretty much killed any chance of Malhotra getting a decent contract this offseason.

The stuff about his vision should have been kept private. If he believes he can play and another team feels he can play then let him.

[canuck73_3]

The fact that Manny himself has said there has been next to no interest from teams is a telling sign there's more to the injury then the fans here want to believe.

[Boudrias]

Gillis pretty much killed any chance of Malhotra getting a decent contract this offseason.

The stuff about his vision should have been kept private. If he believes he can play and another team feels he can play then let him.

[Monty]

I've never understood why people have crapped on Gillis over Manny's situation. It was clear to anybody watching that Manny was not the same player after the injury. Combine that with how much more team doctors and management know more about his injury then fans.

How many players do we hear about now, after retirement, that are having an incredibly difficult time just getting through the day without considerable pain, discomfort, and/or headaches? Gillis just did what any responsible GM should do in this circumstance. Many NHL players continue to play through an injury, despite their better judgement.

Manny may not be ready to accept that it is time to retire, but Gillis did the responsible thing as a GM. I would hate to live with knowing I could have helped prevent a further injury if I kept quiet over something I knew I should have spoken out about.

[TOMapleLaughs]

Pretty sure other GM's are aware of Manny's decline after the eye injury. They can see? It's probably not Gillis' fault that these GM's don't have vision impairments of their own. Not to mention some fans here.

Manny's a great freakin' guy and he was VITAL to this team. I hate what has happened to Manny, but that was all on him. He knew the risks and was bit.

My fear is that other guys on our team are going to ignore all that and continue going visorless 'because it's cool.'

Visors are being grandfathered in for a reason.

[riffraff]

The fact that Manny himself has said there has been next to no interest from teams is a telling sign there's more to the injury then the fans here want to believe.

[King Heffy]

I've never understood why people have crapped on Gillis over Manny's situation. It was clear to anybody watching that Manny was not the same player after the injury. Combine that with how much more team doctors and management know more about his injury then fans.

How many players do we hear about now, after retirement, that are having an incredibly difficult time just getting through the day without considerable pain, discomfort, and/or headaches? Gillis just did what any responsible GM should do in this circumstance. Many NHL players continue to play through an injury, despite their better judgement.

Manny may not be ready to accept that it is time to retire, but Gillis did the responsible thing as a GM. I would hate to live with knowing I could have helped prevent a further inMannyjury if I kept quiet over something I knew I should have spoken out about.

[Alexander.Edler]

Way better options out there that can easily replace Malhotra's skill. But his character will be missed, as will his face-off capabilities.

[Monty]

Manny is a grown man fully capable of making his own decision. Gillis had no issue with letting him play in the SCF when it was OBVIOUS he was risking his vision. The least Gillis could have done was put Manny on waivers if he wasn't willing to let him take the risk on the Canucks.

[King Heffy]

As every sane person knows, you find out a lot more about the seriousness of an injury as time goes on. Lots of time between Manny June 2011 vs. Manny March 2013, surely you must know that?

[Monty]

The injury was obviously serious at the time. Considering it was considered extremely unlikely Manny would return by pretty much everyone at the time, Gillis should have had reason to believe he was taking a signifigant risk with Malhotra's health. He chose to do so to attempt to win a Stanley Cup.

[King Heffy]

Ok?

[Monty]

He was only willing to risk Manny's health when it benefited him to do so. However, he was unwilling to let Malhotra pursue his career elsewhere even though Manny was willing to take that risk.

[mikeburn]

Gillis felt he had to provide a show for the fan base's love of Manny.

Lots of talk of 'timing' and cap space at that particular moment in time with Kes coming back on to the roster.

Manny was adamant Gillis deferred to Gillis' 'perception' that Manny was in a compromised position and not what Manny wanted or believed to be the case.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Unfortunately, other than winning faceoffs, Manny Malhotra just hasn't been a good hockey player since his injury. His defensive play has gone into serious decline, and this is supported by his underlying numbers.

2012-13 (5v5):

71:52 EVTOI

1 GF, 4 GA, -3 (5v5 on-ice goal differential), -3 (standard +/-)

49 CF (total Corsi events for), 62 CA (total Corsi events against), -13 Corsi (total events), -15.3 Corsi Rel

25.5 Offensive ZS%

-3.981 QualComp, -1.394 Rel QualComp (faced weakest average competition of any Canucks forward)

0.278 GF20, 1.113 GA20, 20.0 GF%

13.64 CF20, 17.25 CA20, 44.1 CF%

65.3 FO% (OZ 53.3%, NZ 70.0%, DZ 66.7%)

2011-12 (5v5):

755:32 EVTOI

24 GF, 37 GA, -13 (5v5 on-ice goal differential), -11 (standard +/-)

508 CF (total Corsi events for), 770 CA (total Corsi events against), -262 Corsi (total events), -32.6 Corsi Rel

13.2 Offensive ZS%

-0.57 QualComp, +0.49 Rel QualComp (similar to average usage/competition pre-injury)

0.635 GF20, 0.979 GA20, 39.3 GF%

13.45 CF20, 20.38 CA20, 39.7 CF%

58.5 FO% (below pre-injury rate but still good for 2nd on team--only Pahlsson was better)

Basically, in 2011-12, Malhotra faced pretty much average usage (zone starts, quality of competition, etc) for his career as a defensive roleplayer and faceoff specialist. His numbers (outside of the faceoff dot) were quite poor. Perhaps most significant is the degree to which his on-ice presence caused his teammates' numbers to tank while playing alongside him. Some of this has always been a normal effect of playing with Manny in the kind of tough minutes he draws. However, the WOWY stats for 2011-12 saw goals-against rates often doubled, in addition to the usual drop-off in offense (due to the zone starts). Similarly, the Corsi (shot attempts for/against) differentials for 2011-12 were at negative rates previously never seen during Manny's on-ice minutes (prior to the injury).

In the 2012-13 season, Malhotra was sheltered like never before and faced the weakest quality of competition of all the Canucks centres and, in fact, among all Canucks forwards who saw ice-time that season. Of all the players who skated for the Canucks during the 2012-13 regular season, only Derek Joslin (during his 2 game call-up) faced softer opposition than Manny. Even against butter-soft opponents and virtual NHL plugs, Malhotra could no longer play the shutdown role, giving up far too many shots, chances, and goals against during his brief stint with the team before finally (and mercifully), Gillis shut things down for good.

I'm a huge Malhotra fan and I wish him the best but the Manny I watched on the ice since the eye injury and the one I've analyzed in the stats does not appear to be a competent NHL player anymore. Given his talent and competition level, as well as him being just a great overall individual, the idea that Malhotra's injury has seemingly ruined his career is nothing but a tragedy. The only thing more depressing (for me at least) is watching him struggle to accept the hand he's been dealt.

Manny's a proud guy and his work ethic is undeniable. If anyone can overcome enormous obstacles and face down seemingly impossible challenges, it's Manny Malhtora. I honestly wish him nothing but the best. However, the way things look right now (and have for quite some time), I just don't see any future for a post-injury Malhotra as a player in the NHL.

I had hoped that Malhotra would take advantage of the Canucks' offer to support his transition to a coaching role with the team. I would have loved to have seen Malhotra passing his knowledge on to guys like Gaunce and Horvat during this year's camp, as well as helping Schroeder (and some of the new guys) improve their results on the faceoff dot. Unfortunately, at least for now, this isn't going to happen. Hopefully, whenever the day comes that Manny's ready to close the book on his career as a player, the door will remain open for him to join Vancouver's staff (if he so chooses).

[mikeburn]

Unfortunately, other than winning faceoffs, Manny Malhotra just hasn't been a good hockey player since his injury. His defensive play has gone into serious decline, and this is supported by his underlying numbers.

2012-13 (5v5):

71:52 EVTOI

1 GF, 4 GA, -3 (5v5 on-ice goal differential), -3 (standard +/-)

49 CF (total Corsi events for), 62 CA (total Corsi events against), -13 Corsi (total events), -15.3 Corsi Rel

25.5 Offensive ZS%

-3.981 QualComp, -1.394 Rel QualComp (faced weakest average competition of any Canucks forward)

0.278 GF20, 1.113 GA20, 20.0 GF%

13.64 CF20, 17.25 CA20, 44.1 CF%

65.3 FO% (OZ 53.3%, NZ 70.0%, DZ 66.7%)

2011-12 (5v5):

755:32 EVTOI

24 GF, 37 GA, -13 (5v5 on-ice goal differential), -11 (standard +/-)

508 CF (total Corsi events for), 770 CA (total Corsi events against), -262 Corsi (total events), -32.6 Corsi Rel

13.2 Offensive ZS%

-0.57 QualComp, +0.49 Rel QualComp (similar to average usage/competition pre-injury)

0.635 GF20, 0.979 GA20, 39.3 GF%

13.45 CF20, 20.38 CA20, 39.7 CF%

58.5 FO% (below pre-injury rate but still good for 2nd on team--only Pahlsson was better)

Basically, in 2011-12, Malhotra faced pretty much average usage (zone starts, quality of competition, etc) for his career as a defensive roleplayer and faceoff specialist. His numbers (outside of the faceoff dot) were quite poor. Perhaps most significant is the degree to which his on-ice presence caused his teammates' numbers to tank while playing alongside him. Some of this has always been a normal effect of playing with Manny in the kind of tough minutes he draws. However, the WOWY stats for 2011-12 saw goals-against rates often doubled, in addition to the usual drop-off in offense (due to the zone starts). Similarly, the Corsi (shot attempts for/against) differentials for 2011-12 were at negative rates previously never seen during Manny's on-ice minutes (prior to the injury).

In the 2012-13 season, Malhotra was sheltered like never before and faced the weakest quality of competition of all the Canucks centres and, in fact, among all Canucks forwards who saw ice-time that season. Of all the players who skated for the Canucks during the 2012-13 regular season, only Derek Joslin (during his 2 game call-up) faced softer opposition than Manny. Even against butter-soft opponents and virtual NHL plugs, Malhotra could no longer play the shutdown role, giving up far too many shots, chances, and goals against during his brief stint with the team before finally (and mercifully), Gillis shut things down for good.

I'm a huge Malhotra fan and I wish him the best but the Manny I watched on the ice since the eye injury and the one I've analyzed in the stats does not appear to be a competent NHL player anymore. Given his talent and competition level, as well as him being just a great overall individual, the idea that Malhotra's injury has seemingly ruined his career is nothing but a tragedy. The only thing more depressing (for me at least) is watching him struggle to accept the hand he's been dealt.

Manny's a proud guy and his work ethic is undeniable. If anyone can overcome enormous obstacles and face down seemingly impossible challenges, it's Manny Malhtora. I honestly wish him nothing but the best. However, the way things look right now (and have for quite some time), I just don't see any future for a post-injury Malhotra as a player in the NHL.

I had hoped that Malhotra would take advantage of the Canucks' offer to support his transition to a coaching role with the team. I would have loved to have seen Malhotra passing his knowledge on to guys like Gaunce and Horvat during this year's camp, as well as helping Schroeder (and some of the new guys) improve their results on the faceoff dot. Unfortunately, at least for now, this isn't going to happen. Hopefully, whenever the day comes that Manny's ready to close the book on his career as a player, the door will remain open for him to join Vancouver's staff (if he so chooses).

[canuckinparadise]

If Manny the player is no longer an option.

How about Manny the development coach, the special teams coach the amateur scout?

This guy is nothing but class and i'd like to have him on the team in any manner possible.

[Bodee]

I think 'we' got rid of Manny for cap purposes.

Doubtful that the Gillis show can now negate that heartfelt process.

[Boudrias]

Unfortunately, other than winning faceoffs, Manny Malhotra just hasn't been a good hockey player since his injury. His defensive play has gone into serious decline, and this is supported by his underlying numbers.

2012-13 (5v5):

71:52 EVTOI

1 GF, 4 GA, -3 (5v5 on-ice goal differential), -3 (standard +/-)

49 CF (total Corsi events for), 62 CA (total Corsi events against), -13 Corsi (total events), -15.3 Corsi Rel

25.5 Offensive ZS%

-3.981 QualComp, -1.394 Rel QualComp (faced weakest average competition of any Canucks forward)

0.278 GF20, 1.113 GA20, 20.0 GF%

13.64 CF20, 17.25 CA20, 44.1 CF%

65.3 FO% (OZ 53.3%, NZ 70.0%, DZ 66.7%)

2011-12 (5v5):

755:32 EVTOI

24 GF, 37 GA, -13 (5v5 on-ice goal differential), -11 (standard +/-)

508 CF (total Corsi events for), 770 CA (total Corsi events against), -262 Corsi (total events), -32.6 Corsi Rel

13.2 Offensive ZS%

-0.57 QualComp, +0.49 Rel QualComp (similar to average usage/competition pre-injury)

0.635 GF20, 0.979 GA20, 39.3 GF%

13.45 CF20, 20.38 CA20, 39.7 CF%

58.5 FO% (below pre-injury rate but still good for 2nd on team--only Pahlsson was better)

Basically, in 2011-12, Malhotra faced pretty much average usage (zone starts, quality of competition, etc) for his career as a defensive roleplayer and faceoff specialist. His numbers (outside of the faceoff dot) were quite poor. Perhaps most significant is the degree to which his on-ice presence caused his teammates' numbers to tank while playing alongside him. Some of this has always been a normal effect of playing with Manny in the kind of tough minutes he draws. However, the WOWY stats for 2011-12 saw goals-against rates often doubled, in addition to the usual drop-off in offense (due to the zone starts). Similarly, the Corsi (shot attempts for/against) differentials for 2011-12 were at negative rates previously never seen during Manny's on-ice minutes (prior to the injury).

In the 2012-13 season, Malhotra was sheltered like never before and faced the weakest quality of competition of all the Canucks centres and, in fact, among all Canucks forwards who saw ice-time that season. Of all the players who skated for the Canucks during the 2012-13 regular season, only Derek Joslin (during his 2 game call-up) faced softer opposition than Manny. Even against butter-soft opponents and virtual NHL plugs, Malhotra could no longer play the shutdown role, giving up far too many shots, chances, and goals against during his brief stint with the team before finally (and mercifully), Gillis shut things down for good.

I'm a huge Malhotra fan and I wish him the best but the Manny I watched on the ice since the eye injury and the one I've analyzed in the stats does not appear to be a competent NHL player anymore. Given his talent and competition level, as well as him being just a great overall individual, the idea that Malhotra's injury has seemingly ruined his career is nothing but a tragedy. The only thing more depressing (for me at least) is watching him struggle to accept the hand he's been dealt.

Manny's a proud guy and his work ethic is undeniable. If anyone can overcome enormous obstacles and face down seemingly impossible challenges, it's Manny Malhtora. I honestly wish him nothing but the best. However, the way things look right now (and have for quite some time), I just don't see any future for a post-injury Malhotra as a player in the NHL.

I had hoped that Malhotra would take advantage of the Canucks' offer to support his transition to a coaching role with the team. I would have loved to have seen Malhotra passing his knowledge on to guys like Gaunce and Horvat during this year's camp, as well as helping Schroeder (and some of the new guys) improve their results on the faceoff dot. Unfortunately, at least for now, this isn't going to happen. Hopefully, whenever the day comes that Manny's ready to close the book on his career as a player, the door will remain open for him to join Vancouver's staff (if he so chooses).

[TimberWolf]

Watching Manny it was obvious he was done. It sucks because I really liked him and really felt that as soon as he got that puck in the eye, we lost the cup. He was that important.

Time to let it go. He can't protect himself out there. I get he wants to compete, but it's over.