Offensive Threat Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I hear it constantly. About how things were better in the "old days" . Even among people half my age. Most of it is dead wrong. They are viewing the past through rose colored glasses. I remember how things were before Cel phones and debit cards and computers ( yeah, Im old enough). It sucked. Making plans for a Friday night was serious business. If people werent where you expected them to meet you there was no way to contact them. None. It was over. Thats just one of many things. My sister, who is older than me, has talked about how she used to be safer walking alone in the good old days. She never felt safe walking alone. I would go get her from the bus stop after dark when we were young. She doesnt seem to remember that. She is safer now than in her entire life when walking alone. This article sums up some of the misconceptions that keep going around. And remember someday, not so far from now, these will be the good old days. http://www.economist...-prevention-not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampage Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 When people say something like "things were better in the good old days" of course they aren't talking about the technology. When I hear something like in the good old days its usually about how dumb kids are nowadays or how things are priced so high nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillooet_Hillbilly Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 back in my day there was no crack heads and you could leave your car unlocked and not worry about things getting stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 back in my day there was no crack heads and you could leave your car unlocked and not worry about things getting stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillooet_Hillbilly Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 got a point but back in the day people reported every time they got ripped off. lets look at today where as people see no point in reporting a crime because it leads to no wheres. it's all about cover up the actual incident numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 got a point but back in the day people reported every time they got ripped off. lets look at today where as people see no point in reporting a crime because it leads to no wheres. it's all about cover up the actual incident numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Insurance wont cover anything without a police report. Who wouldnt report a crime? What people do you hang out with who would not report being a victim of crime? Real people in a civilized society report crimes if they happen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Insurance is useless when it comes to small time theft. Police are useless when it comes to dealing with any minor crimes. Had a buddy, who's car was broken into and vandalized, guy dropped his wallet in the car, ID and everything (stupidest criminal ever). Cops couldn't do a damn thing. Still shakin my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Sneer Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You know what is disgusting now a days You go to a restaurant, look around and see 2 people going to dinner looking down at their phones. You go over to a birthday party, sit around the fire, nobody talks they just stare at the phone. A 2 year old is acting like a brat, throw it an iPad with Dora on it. Kids can watch hardcore porn with the flick of their finger, they don't even know what passion is, they figure relationships and sex works like porn. technology is separating us from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Making plans for a Friday night was serious business. If people werent where you expected them to meet you there was no way to contact them. None. It was over. Thats just one of many things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You know what is disgusting now a days You go to a restaurant, look around and see 2 people going to dinner looking down at their phones. You go over to a birthday party, sit around the fire, nobody talks they just stare at the phone. A 2 year old is acting like a brat, throw it an iPad with Dora on it. Kids can watch hardcore porn with the flick of their finger, they don't even know what passion is, they figure relationships and sex works like porn. technology is separating us from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 The Good Old Days Were Awful Why the grass seems greener in other centuries Published on July 5, 2011 by Loretta Graziano Breuning, Ph.D. in Your Neurochemical Self Thinking about the good old days triggers neurochemicals that make you feel good. You might reach the conclusion that life was better in the past. But if you had actually lived in the past, you would not have liked it. Your sex partners would have been chosen for you if you had lived in the past. Your elders would have obligated you to partners who benefited them. You would have felt dirty all the time if you lived in the past. Without hot running water or toilet paper, you would have had that camping-trip feeling your whole life. Your food would have been laced with vermin droppings and your drinking water would bring intestinal worms. You would have been scared all the time if you lived in the past. Death would have snatched those around you, and people would explain this with theories that made it scarier. You wouldn't have left your village if you lived in the past because it was too dangerous. Home wasn't safe either because of invasions, famines, and routine domestic violence. Hey—We're All Time Travelers The human mind has the unique ability to go back and forth in time. Today, we're safer, cleaner, and freer to choose our sex partners, but people are convinced that things are awful. Why do people think life was better in the past? Because your brain focuses on what you lack, and takes for granted what you have. If you feel you lack leisurely dinners with friends, and you imagine people having them in the past, then the past seems better regardless of the facts. When you feel you lack something, your brain rings the alarm that says your survival is threatened. Obviously, lacking friendly dinners is not life-threatening, but if it's the biggest lack on your mind, your brain processes it with equipment that evolved to confront survival challenges. Your present lacks feel urgent while the lacks of the past are just historical abstractions. Think you're too smart for this bias? Consider these physiological nitty gritties: 1. Monkeys experienced dopamine spikes when experimenters rewarded the monkeys with juice instead of leaves. But dopamine levels soon fell, even while the monkeys kept getting the juice. Then the experimenters switched back to leaves, and the monkeys exploded with rage. Though content with the leaves at the start, losing something triggers icky chemicals, even when the losses are insignificant. Gaining something triggers happy chemicals, but only at first. A steady stream of new rewards is what it takes to trigger a steady stream of happy chemicals. This is why people can feel bad amidst lives that are so good compared to the wildest dreams of their ancestors. 2. Pain gets the brain's attention immediately. Pain was a big part of daily life in the past due to hunger, injury, disease and violence. Today's life holds less physical pain, so social pain gets your attention. If a social snub in the cafeteria is the worst pain you suffer, then to your brain it is a survival threat of the first order. We process social pain with systems that evolved to process survival threats, so we scan for social snubs instead of sitting back and enjoying our comfortable lives. 3. Visceral experience triggers more neurochemicals than historical facts on a page. For example, a neglected public rest room triggers more disgust than reading about the pit toilets, chamber pots and open sewers of the past, because you have real sensory experience of today's dirty bathroom. Today's suffering seems more intense than the suffering of the past because you feel it directly. People believe life is more stressful these days because they did not actually feel the stress of those days. When your life is frustrating, you may take comfort in thoughts of a glorious past. When you do, you are stimulating happy chemicals that are real. That makes it easy to believe that a better world lies in other times and places. It's easy to ignore all the good in the present – until you understand your own operating system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 back in my day there was no crack heads and you could leave your car unlocked and not worry about things getting stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I was talking to a buddy of mine recently about how modern technology has really helped out musicians. (I spent most of the 80's traveling western Canada with a rock band) Today, if we want to learn a song, it's download and print the lyrics, google the tab and/or chords....and if you're still having trouble, find a live video on youtube to see how the guy in the original band is playing it. Back when I was on the road, the standard procedure was to buy the cassette and spend an hour or two with the headphones on pressing "play" and "rewind".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 well i'm 43 so I remember tv's where you had to get up and change the channel and there were only like 5 to choose from. Then the channel box came out with a 15 foot cord attached as your "remote" lolz... and the pong was the most amazing video game. The one thing that bothers me the most is how houses have skyrocketed in price in last 15 years and last 35. When we moved to victoria in 79' My parents bought a regular type home 4 bdr 2 bath on a 6500' lot in a residential neighbourhood for $55k. that same house today sells for $450-550k. wages haven't gone up 10 times since then. My parents sold that home for 285K or was it 185 or low 200's anyway in the early 90's. You can't raise a family now on 1 salary like my parents did. I have no idea how people manage to raise a family buy a house and all that on less than 100k a year today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stizz19 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 are you kidding i am almost 30 and i remember very clearly the world before text messages and cell phones, and this was never actually an issue at any point, let alone a big serious deal? "meet me in front of the movie theater at 8" "k" "k bye" "bye" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Back in the day I would go out and play in the creek or climb a tree or something, we didn't even have a tv, now I just sit in front of the computer all day. Sure I have all this information at my fingertips and can get in touch with whoever I want just like that, but there are tradeoffs and I'm not sure they are all worth it. I don't have the willpower to deny myself the use of this modern technology and internet, but if it were to all fail tomorrow - no computers or internet or cell-phones - and never return, I feel like it would be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 The OP article is about the U.S., which was indeed a lot crazier back in the day, especially in the '80s and early '90s. Canada OTOH, has since gotten a lot worse whether the stats reflect it or not. The one exception is fighting and physical assaults, which have really toned down from where they were back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Its these kids and thier god dang vidya games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 back in my day there was no crack heads and you could leave your car unlocked and not worry about things getting stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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