Wilbur Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Their production is fine. It is their name that they need to work on. They are viewed as being soft, with a lack of integrity and leadership. (Not saying this is true). I am pretty sure winning a cup guarantees them to be HOFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I think try will, the fact that they are twins that play together gives then an extra edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Considering their fantastic conditioning, they will probably play for another 5 seasons at the least. That's 400 more games, leaving them at around 1,300 games, but that would mean they retire at 38. These guys are probably two of the fittest athletes in the sport right now and, like Lidstrom, will be able to play into their 40's (unless Tortorella's shot-blocking ways break them down). In that case, tack on another 160 games - the twins could easily end up playing around 1500 games which would leave them in the top-15 all time for games played. Scoring-wise, lets say they're on the down-swing right now. I could imagine one more season at a point-per-game, followed by a few 60 point seasons before they tail off into second and third-line production rates. 2014 - 80pts 2015 - 65pts 2016 - 60pts 2017 - 55 pts 2018 - 45 pts 2019 - 40 pts 2020 - 30 pts That's an extra 375 points, leaving them both well over 1000 points which is very acheivable. This should leave them both in the top-50 in scoring all time. Honestly, if they don't have a cup to go along with all of that, it'll be tough for them to get in. Definately not first-time hall of famers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbdoubleu Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 They are not even close to Point-Per-Game players. They would have to finish they careers very strongly: at least 3 more seasons of 80+ points - get to a 1,000 - and another deep, productive playoff run. Their numbers aren't HHOF at this point, but that can still change. Milestones that are realistic (and I think required to even be considered to be in the HHOF unless careers are shortened): 1,000 Career Regular Season Points Each, Plus: For Henrik Top 25 in All-Time Assists - 825 or better. At his usual 60-70 per season, he'd need 4 more (seasons). For Daniel 400 Goals - At an average of 25-30 a year, he'd need 4 more too. To lock it up. Henrik has to get to 1,000 assists, over 100 playoff points, a cup, or another major award. Daniel, has to get to 500 goals, or get in to the 1,200+ career points, 100 playoff points, a cup, or another major award. They are really going to have to continue to be high-end players for more than 3 seasons., and they are already a few seasons removed from their Art Ross seasons. A cup would go a long way, the Hall does consider international success, and a cup would put the Twins in to the Triple Gold Club, and that might be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 PPG numbers wont matter. There are only a handful of active players in the league that average a point per gamein todays NHL. You are comparing numbers from different era's. No one will put 2.5ppg like Gretzky did anytime soon no matter how skilled they are. It's the awards/championships that count so go and get one you Swedish Warlocks of Puck Control! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudibango Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 win the cup, if this missing , no chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbal23 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The way they play the game I think they could play until they're 50. They play with intellect and not speed, agility, dangles they make the smart play so they'll easily get over 1000. If they retire early then I would say they need to win the cup or atleast get back to the finals. They need minimum 55 Pts per season from here on and they can do that easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks#01fan Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I believe they will and a cup would all but guarantee it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 There is no established criteria to get into the HHOF so who knows. You would think Cups mattered but they don't. Their rep as soft doesn't matter; there are many soft players in the HHOF. International success does seem to play a part as there are some non-NHLers in there. They appear to have what it might take but it's really a crap shoot. As Don Taylor says, if Dick Duff is in the HOF, anyone has a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven pounds soft Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Win a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Bure never won the cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjr Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 With the current list of active players, they should have no problem getting in in the first year of eligibility. I would almost hazard a guess they would be the only two players of their year. If Hank takes over the Ironman lead he'll be a shoo in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Sundin was first ballot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Still some work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Absolutely for sure unless they both Marty Mcsorley D Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Sedins HOFers? Guaranteed! Just by the nature of 'em being twins who've managed to reach such an elite level - together. They are already as iconic in hockey history...as the Esposito, Mahovlich, Sutter, & Staal brothers. All of the afore mentioned will have their place in the hockey-hall-of-fame among the most-respected families in their sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Sundin was first ballot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Their production is fine. It is their name that they need to work on. They are viewed as being soft, with a lack of integrity and leadership. (Not saying this is true). I am pretty sure winning a cup guarantees them to be HOFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Canuck Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 I see quite a posts saying that their "phenomenon" of being twins is a big advantage of getting into the Hall. Now, although I agree that a Hall of Fame would love to have a set of twins enter together, do you not think that this situation may hinder them from being first ballot entries? We know that if (and hopefully when) they are inducted they will be obviously entering together. Because of this, they would either have to be sure fire first ballot-ers or be a part of a "weaker" class in order to get in. So could their "phenomena" not be a hindrance in this regard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I see quite a posts saying that their "phenomenon" of being twins is a big advantage of getting into the Hall. Now, although I agree that a Hall of Fame would love to have a set of twins enter together, do you not think that this situation may hinder them from being first ballot entries? We know that if (and hopefully when) they are inducted they will be obviously entering together. Because of this, they would either have to be sure fire first ballot-ers or be a part of a "weaker" class in order to get in. So could their "phenomena" not be a hindrance in this regard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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