Justin Trudeau: Legalize Weed

[theminister]

It's scientifically proven to be a gateway drug. First time marijuana users are much more likely to try heroin, crack, meth you name it. Just stating facts.

[Lockout Casualty]

It's scientifically proven to be a gateway drug. First time marijuana users are much more likely to try heroin, crack, meth you name it. Just stating facts.

[theminister]

What was the correlation to tobacco use?

[Lockout Casualty]

What was the correlation to tobacco use?

[MillerGenuineDraft]

A stratified, random sample of 1,943 adolescents was recruited from secondary schools across Victoria, Australia at age 14–15 years. This cohort was interviewed on eight occasions until the age of 24–25 years. At age 24 years, 12% of the sample had used amphetamines in the past year, with 1%–2% using at least weekly. Young adult amphetamine use was predicted strongly by adolescent drug use and was associated robustly with other drug use and dependence in young adulthood. Associations were stronger for more frequent users. Among young adults who had not been using amphetamines at age 20 years, the strongest predictor of use at age 24 years was the use of other drugs, particularly cannabis, at 20 years.[12] Those who were smoking cannabis at the age of 15 were as much as 15 times more likely to be using amphetamines in their early 20s

[Lockout Casualty]

Haha. Weed smokers, always in denial. Mr Patronize is in denial. Hahaha.

[theminister]

Haha. Weed smokers, always in denial. Mr Patronize is in denial. Hahaha.

[ilduce39]

I don't smoke weed, and I'm staunchly against kids using the stuff but i have to say Lockout is right about Gateway theory - which takes using Tobacco, Alcohol or Marijuana and measures the amount that it increases the probability that an individual will have:

a) the desire

b ) the access

to use stronger drugs. (Especially so for access - a la drug dealers vs a legal vendor if it's legalized.)

...edit: Lockout is the one who was talking about gateway theory

[theminister]

When did I say they were all weed smokers bruhaha? Miller admitted to smoking weed so I'm treating him as one.

[ilduce39]

There's always going to be the individual who chases the stronger high and uses weed as an easily-accessible stepping stone - but the real danger is associating with a peer group who identify with drug use and push/encourage/provide each other to use stronger drugs.

[theminister]

There's always going to be the individual who chases the stronger high and uses weed as an easily-accessible stepping stone - but the real danger is associating with a peer group who identify with drug use and push/encourage/provide each other to use stronger drugs.

[DonLever]

In Asia, marijuana is considered a gateway drug. That is why there is severe penalties for usage of that product.

And it works, there is very little hard drug use in Japan, HK, China, Taiwan, South Korea.

[theminister]

In Asia, marijuana is considered a gateway drug. That is why there is severe penalties for usage of that product.

And it works, there is very little hard drug use in Japan, HK, China, Taiwan, South Korea.

[ilduce39]

But that individual, for a variety of reasons, will always exist as long as we have dysfunction in our society.

Unless one believes that all intoxicants, recreational and medicinal, be banned outright then there is only the choice between punishment and education/treatment.

[theminister]

Am I not in the "cool" group if I classify someone as a weed smoker?It allegedly helps with depression. Okay. But legalizing it will release it for pleasure, not medicinal use where it can actually be useful. All this liberal government wants to to if Trudeau is elected is tax marijuana as a means of making money as many many people will buy it and there will be a huge increase in crime and drug addictions in Canada, guaranteed.

[Lockout Casualty]

Give me some examples of countries where marijuana is completely legal and there was no increase in crime or addiction. I reckon you'll have a hard time finding them.

[theminister]

Give me some examples of countries where marijuana is completely legal and there was no increase in crime or addiction. I reckon you'll have a hard time finding them.

[sabatoge95]

It's scientifically proven to be a gateway drug. First time marijuana users are much more likely to try heroin, crack, meth you name it. Just stating facts.

[theminister]

First of all, it isn't legal in Holland or Portugal, it's "decriminalized". If you are caught with it, the consequences are less but there are still consequences.If it was legal, I guarantee you there'd be increased crime rates and addictions.Where it is completely legal (North Korea), it is a bad example because North Korea has so many limitations being a communist nation, that crime is very low anyways.Bring it to a country like Canada, where freedom has no boundaries, and problems emerge. Big difference between "de-criminalization" and "legalization"As I read with Justin Trudeau, he wants to "legalize" it.That's where I'm coming from.

[Lockout Casualty]

Two countries have marijuana legalized.North Korea and Cambodia.Do you really think there are accurate stats from two countries like that?Again, you're getting "legalization" and "decriminalization" confused.Huge, huge difference.