Jester13 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 The Toronto Maple Leafs signed defenceman Mark Fraser to a one-year, $1.275 million contract on Tuesday. The 26-year-old Fraser was a restricted free agent and scheduled for an arbitration hearing later in the day. Last season, the Ottawa native recorded eight assists in 45 games with the Maple Leafs. He was originally drafted by the New Jersey Devils in the third round (84th overall) in 2005. This bodes well for GMMG, meez thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Sign and trade????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill F-ing Murray Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 It was speculated that TOronto started the trade rumours in an attempt to lower his value. It doesn't matter though 1.275 is a good price for this signing. I think both sides are happy with the results, more so then if an arbitrator decides it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Good price. That's what I expect Tanev to sign at. A bit more for longer term, but under 1.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yup, we're supposed to think this is a good deal for a 26yr old Fraser when he reportedly asked for $2mil. Meanwhile, 27yr old Kostka's cap hit is $625k. TO told him to walk. Is Fraser honestly twice as good as Kostka? How about Sulzer at $725k? Benn at $600k? Schultz at $700k? Bartkowski at $650k? Weber at $650k? I'm asking because all these guys were in pretty much the same boat this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yup, we're supposed to think this is a good deal for a 26yr old Fraser when he reportedly asked for $2mil. Meanwhile, 27yr old Kostka's cap hit is $625k. TO told him to walk. Is Fraser honestly twice as good as Kostka? How about Sulzer at $725k? Benn at $600k? Schultz at $700k? Bartkowski at $650k? Weber at $650k? I'm asking because all these guys were in pretty much the same boat this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yup, we're supposed to think this is a good deal for a 26yr old Fraser when he reportedly asked for $2mil. Meanwhile, 27yr old Kostka's cap hit is $625k. TO told him to walk. Is Fraser honestly twice as good as Kostka? How about Sulzer at $725k? Benn at $600k? Schultz at $700k? Bartkowski at $650k? Weber at $650k? I'm asking because all these guys were in pretty much the same boat this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Better, maybe. But twice as good? No. Again, this is only looking like a good deal when the bs report of him asking for $2mil comes out. It's not that good a deal, in reality. He's a depth guy who was in the minors just last season. Not that the situation has changed, but Nonis is likely going to lose Franson, who is a far better d-man, or even Kadri, in a worst-case scenario, thanks to an evaporation of cap space due to some really bad deals. The Fraser deal isn't horrible, but it doesn't help either. I guess we'll see how Nonis handles this cap crunch that he made himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Funny +/- is mentioned, as Schultz (LA $700k) once had a +50 season. +/- is a useless stat, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I really hated Mike Kostka and I think he was awful so I can say without a doubt that Fraser is more than twice as good as him, but Kostka didn't set the bar too high. Fraser has the physical presence which is important. He is like our Bieksa, but obviously Bieksa is much, much more skilled that Fraser. I remember seeing a Leafs fan in a Mike Kostka jersey. First though I had was "Why?" Although he played against inferior players, his plus minus is significantly higher than Phaneufs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Less than 5 million to sign Kadri and Franson. Someone saw the writing on the wall but shot themselves in the foot anyhow. Looks like Toronto's gonna have to hang the "must sell" sign out... hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I really hated Mike Kostka and I think he was awful so I can say without a doubt that Fraser is more than twice as good as him, but Kostka didn't set the bar too high. Fraser has the physical presence which is important. He is like our Bieksa, but obviously Bieksa is much, much more skilled that Fraser. I remember seeing a Leafs fan in a Mike Kostka jersey. First though I had was "Why?" Although he played against inferior players, his plus minus is significantly higher than Phaneufs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I didn't expect TO love for Kostka now that he's out of TO. What about the other examples? imho Fraser simply cashed in as much as he could, using the odd fight and meaningless +/- as a method. The reported $2mil was a joke. More like a way to justify $1.2mil. TO fans for the most part bought that reasoning though. Meanwhile, other teams are signing similar players for way less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyknukles Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 whats funny is most of you put stats ahead of actual value to the team. fraser played well and fought lots.. orr ,mclaren and fraser were a huge part of toronto success, reguarless of stats... which is why they were all resigned . i am suprised tho, that the fraser signing took aslong as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I didn't expect TO love for Kostka now that he's out of TO. What about the other examples? imho Fraser simply cashed in as much as he could, using the odd fight and meaningless +/- as a method. The reported $2mil was a joke. More like a way to justify $1.2mil. TO fans for the most part bought that reasoning though. Meanwhile, other teams are signing similar players for way less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Seems like one of Franson or Kadri's time in Toronto is done unless they can clear cap. My guess is Franson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I dont watch them play enough to comment, although I did watch Yannik Weber play on MTL. He is a 7th Dman, but his game is the opposites of Fraser. One's offensive one's defensive. Fraser was very valuable to Toronto, where as Weber was not very valuable to Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyknukles Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Exactly! As a Maple Leaf fan myself, I really noticed that we had invaluable players that really helped the team opposed to other teams where Frasers, McLaren and Orr would just be spare parts. So I'm not surprised to see Fraser get rewarded for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyknukles Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 colton played 44 games. frazer played 35 games. fraser played 45 games. alot of games played for spare parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 spare parts ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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