CB007 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Really? So only gay people should stand up for gay rights? C'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 As you can see from the graphic there, they are pretty much the only country outside of the Middle East and Africa to lean so far away. A decade ago they were much closer to a 50/50 split, and I'd hazard a guess that countries like Canada would have been closer to that as well. They are headed in the wrong direction, and it's actually fairly astonishing how fast they are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I pity the Soviet people and all those the State ruled over. What a nightmare that continues to this day for an entire continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Where was all this humanitarian crap in Beijing? What a joke how the moral switch turns on and off whenever convenient. This is about sports, not politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhopeless Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 "Nevermind that crap, the US could ban Sochi altogether because of Snowden." - I nominate that for the stupidest comment I've ever read on this site. Maybe we should ban the U.S. for drone warfare... how about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 If i was in the shoes of would be Olympians, I would take this opportunity to put mud in the eye of Russia by very vocally boycotting the games there due to their hate mongering. If enough people did the same, it might make a difference over there. gold silver and bronze can't hold a candle to the pride of doing the right thing. You might not be remembered for not showing up, but you have to live with yourself for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I wonder what social forces are making them lean to the right. Though it probably is a generalization, from the Russian people that I personally know, they are fairly liberal and progressive in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 This is the kind of propaganda crap you say when you want to say something but don't actually have anything to say because you actually don't know anything about the subject except "I don't like it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Actually..the more I read about the "anti-ACTIVISM" law the more I think I understand the concerns of the Russiam community. It`s NOT directed at consensual-activity between gay adults. It is directed at sharing literature with MINORS....pro-gay rallies that would influence or solicit MINORS. Fear has risen out of concerns to prevent pedophilia & the sexual exploitation of minors by adults. Parents still prefer to counsel with their children on these matters. Churchs & mosques want to curb sexual activity until marriage. The Soviet govt. is doing some mimimalist things to appease these groups to keep their coalition of peoples & creeds together in troubled & corrupt times. Gays are not going to be arrested for being gay. For circulating published materials to minors on the streets or stumping for a public pro-gay rally - maybe. It has only been a brief while since these kinds of activities were even tolerated in the US. Give them a break! They`re global citizens more so than other isolated countries...they will work this out....or more even separation will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 But even in that situation gays aren't really free to be gay either. They can't speak their mind about being gay, and prejudice towards gays because they can't bring awareness to it prevents them from being publicly gay. So, they have to stay 'in the closet' and they can't fight for gay rights and equality like any other group would be legally allowed to do. Just because they aren't arresting people for having gay/lesbian sex doesn't mean they aren't being persecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Nevermind that crap, the US could ban Sochi altogether because of Snowden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Everyone should stand up for gay rights yes. But we are looking for 'The Face' of gay rights. IMHO this should be a gay athlete, hockey player or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 My GF makes three dollars a day working in Indonesia.If you are standing up for gay rights,I want you to stand up for Indonesian worker`s rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Where do the diving allegations come from? I watch canucks games religiously and don't see any diving. Maybe from burr, but Kes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 You're original point doesn't suggest that at all. It suggests that Kesler (and other straight players involved in supporting you can play) should not bother doing anything and only a gay player should bring light to the issue. Waiting for change, regardless of your personal attachment to the cause, is just apathy and small change is better than no change at all. At some point, gay players have to feel comfortable enough to come forward, and that's not going to happen without actual support from straight players. Until the climate is tolerable enough for gays to feel safe being publicly gay, whether it be in sport or regular life, there won't be widespread change. I have no problem with this being a topic of discussion at the Olympics in a country with bias against it, so long as it's not an obvious intrusion on the games themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Why should everyone stand up for gas rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckdiehard Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Should be Raymond I bet the gay community would love that, after they hear how often he goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monza Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think a lot of players do, it's just that he does have a bad rap for diving. So, it's kinda 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Can't wait until Kesler is captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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