TOMapleLaughs Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 A long-simmering cold war between Canada’s big telecom firms and consumer advocates has turned hot over the contentious subject of whether or not Canadians are being ripped off on their wireless bills. The heated debate — in which consumer advocates and industry representatives are accusing each other of fudging numbers — comes as the major telecom players prepare to ditch their three-year plans to set up new two-year price structures that some observers say are more expensive than the three-year plans they replace. In a recent salvo in the war of words, Telus’ senior VP for regulatory affairs, Ted Woodhead, wrote in a blog entry that given how much telecoms have invested in infrastructure and the “challenges” of maintaining a wireless network in a large, sparsely-populated country like Canada, the country should have the most expensive wireless service in the world. “Canada really SHOULD be the most expensive country for wireless service in the OECD, but we’re not. That’s a great success story we should be celebrating,” Woodhead wrote. Woodhead was responding to digital issues expert and University of Ottawa professor Michael Geist, who wrote that a recent OECD report on telecommunications shows Canada continues to lag much of the developed world on wireless prices. “Canada ranks among the ten most expensive countries within the OECD in virtually every category [of voice and data plans] and among the three most expensive countries for several standard data only plans,” Geist wrote. (That’s out of 35 OECD member countries.) Woodhead had a different perspective. “The facts … prove Canadians pay very competitive rates for some of the best wireless technology in the world,” he wrote. “One key fact — Canadian pricing is better than the U.S. in 12 of the 15 wireless pricing categories the report looks at,” Woodhead wrote. Though it strikes many Canadian consumers as not intuitively true, the notion that Canadians pay less than Americans for wireless is one that the industry has picked up on recently. The Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association, an industry group, recently began running full-page ads in newspapers that say“wireless rates are typically lower than in the U.S., in some cases up to 40 per cent lower.” But the study on which this claim is based — the Wall Communications report, published earlier this month — has come under criticism from consumer advocates. They say it only compared six countries, all of which are at the high end of wireless prices globally. And tech blogger Peter Nowak notes that the report looked at only the big telecom players in the U.S., while including the less-expensive small wireless entrants in Canada. One of the report’s claims — that Canadians have seen their wireless bills drop by about five to 11 per cent — is directly contradicted by a J.D. Power & Associates report from a few months earlier, which reported that Canadians saw a 13-per-cent hike, on average, in their wireless bill over the past year. An unscientific poll carried out by The Huffington Post Canada found 53 per cent of respondents said they saw their wireless bill go up in the past 12 months, compared to 17 per cent who said it went down. But the Wall Communications report’s claim that consumers are paying more for wireless in the U.S. is supported by the recent OECD data — though the data does suggest very similar conditions in the U.S. and Canada. According to the OECD, Canada is fourth among the 35 OECD countries for revenue per mobile subscriber — the amount of money telecom companies make on wireless customers. The U.S. is ahead of Canada by one spot, at third place. (Japan and Australia took first and second, respectively). So while the telecom industry may be right that Canadians are now better off on wireless prices than Americans, both countries now rank among the most disadvantageous for consumers. As tech columnist Peter Nowak puts it, “the U.S. wireless market is not exactly one to aspire to.” Canada’s wireless market could, in fact, look even more like the U.S. one shortly, if reports of Verizon’s interest in entering the Canadian market prove to be true. According to unconfirmed reports, the U.S. telecom giant is tentatively offering $700 million to buy Wind Mobile, one of Canada’s small wireless entrants, with an eye toward building it into Canada’s fourth major wireless player. It’s a prospect the industry and investors are taking seriously. Canadian telecom stocks plummeted last month when news of Verizon’s interest in Canada broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Yes Telus, we should thank you for robbing us less than you already do. Especially before the forced three year contracts that were just taken away. Jeez, what a bunch of greedy thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 To Smellus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Another classic example of a CEO using the time honoured tradition of spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Another classic example of a CEO using the time honoured tradition of spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Yeah keep hearing that lovely radio add about how we don't actually pay out the arse for our wireless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 Also love Telus contracting 3rd party people in the US to harrass me on my cell. Yup, i'm really going to dig deep to buy into whatever scam they're offering. Yesssss! Party on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampage Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 we should be celebrating these ridiculous prices? frack off that guy can suck a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luongold Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 They are only saying this because they don't want Verizon stepping foot into Canada. http://openmedia.ca/news/court In June, Canadians won a new CRTC Code of Conduct for Cell Phone service that effectively ends restrictive 3-year contracts, caps data roaming fees, and makes it easier to switch to a new provider. Then, just days ago in response to OpenMedia.ca’s Demand Choice campaign, Industry Minister Paradis set out new rules to stop Big Telecom companies from taking over key affordable, independent mobile options and wireless spectrum infrastructure from Canadians. Canadians pay some of the highest prices for some of the worst cell phone service in the industrialized world – a direct result of the lack of choice where 94% of the market is dominated by just three giant Big Telecom conglomerates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Woodhead. What a fitting name for the biggest roody poo candyass The Rock has ever seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Also love Telus contracting 3rd party people in the US to harrass me on my cell. Yup, i'm really going to dig deep to buy into whatever scam they're offering. Yesssss! Party on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllEyezOnMe Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 SHAW is better then TELUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 They are pissed about the new wireless auction coming in that they can't participate in. The Fed is trying to get a fourth option into the oligarchy and they are pissed about it. You can look forward to a bombardment of propaganda (which has already begun and which this release is part of) moving forward, what with Bell, Rogers, and Telus also happening to control huge amounts of the media as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Yes Telus, we should thank you for robbing us less than you already do. Especially before the forced three year contracts that were just taken away. Jeez, what a bunch of greedy thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 SHAW is better then TELUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Forced? Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYU3ster Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 For some phones on Telus, your choices were: 3-year contract3-year contract3-year contract3-year contract My GF gets a corporate rate with Telus on voice and data through her employer and she wanted the iPhone 5. I told her to get it on a 1-year contract. Every Telus retailer we went to, including Telus themselves, would only offer a 3-year contract on it. You couldn't even buy the phone outright and go month-to-month. So, yes, in some cases, those 3-year contracts were FORCED if you wanted a specific phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson bay rules Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 He's probably correct in that we should have the most expensive cell phone rates in the world if they gave us the best service in the world that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllEyezOnMe Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Talk to me when Shaw gets a cell phone option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlaBAM Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Yes Telus, we should thank you for robbing us less than you already do. Especially before the forced three year contracts that were just taken away. Jeez, what a bunch of greedy thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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