TheRussianRocket. Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 If Edler doesn't improve but isn't awfully horrible, let's say average or slightly below, and it seems like he won't be able to turn things around, it'd make sense to give him to an organization that knows how to turn players around. Keep in mind Edler's value wouldn't really drop much cause right now his value is high and he's had a horrible year this past season - comes to show his value is stable for the most part. A change of scenery would be the best option for him and the Canucks and best part of all is that he'd be in a different conference. ...as for the proposal, here it is on trade deadline day: To Detroit : Alex Edler - 1st pair dman to help bolster the Wings depleted blueline immediately. Jordan Schroeder - Prospect with play making abilities to replace youth loss of Detroit. To Vancouver : Brendan Smith - 24 year old Canadian replaces Edler on D and has top 4 potential to fully develop into. Tomas Tatar // Martin Frk // Tomas Jurco - young winger prospect with promising potential. - Tatar : 1 year remaining on his ELC. The 22 year old left winger Slovak has proven himself in the AHL which has given him a shot in the big league. On the Wings, given limited minutes, Tatar notched 7 points in 18 games; not too shabby at all given 3rd line minutes and shows what he can do it. A playmaker with the ability to score who has top 6, high scoring forward potential. Solid frame at 5'11", 185lbs with room to get bigger. Out of the 3, Tatar is the best all around player and his style of play has been compared to the likes of Marty St. Louis. He has the lowest risk to become a bust. - Frk : The 19 year old Czech is freak of nature offensively. Frk is 6'0", 195lbs whose natural position is right wing. Fresh into his ELC, he has 3 years remaining on his contract. Frk gets the job done offensively but other than that, don't expect much more. Defense is his weak point and his skating is somewhat a question. Frk in brief is a powerforward who can stick handle in tight areas, stick handle through traffic, has a nose for the net and is known for his NHL calibre shot this young. Scouts have pointed his shot is "excellent" and is one of the best for his age. Sniping powerforward with high scoring forward top 6 potential. Out of the 3, Frk is a one dimensional player who gets the job done in dirty areas and his style of play has been compared to the likes of Johan Franzen. He has the highest risk to reach his potential. - Jurco : The 20 year old Slovak has 2 years left on his ELC and is a wizard. At 6'2", 190lbs, the right winger has made a name for himself. The prospect sensation is majestic with the puck and can just about do every and any move there is. He has made quite the name for himself and has dangerous raw talent. The thing that makes Jurco unique is that he is a rare mix bread of powerforward and a sniper naturally. Tomas has the dynamic ability to drive to the net and ripple mesh or he can rip it past the goalie as he enters the zone. This raw talent he posses makes defenders respect the threat he poses as either a powerforward who can crash the net and put the puck in the net or a sniper who can label a shot in, keeping opposing players uneasy while in the defensive move. Jurco is solid defensively as well and is responsible while on the ice and has top 6 high scoring forward potential. Out of the 3, Jurco is one of those players who has that 'it' factor which players like only Datsyuk have who seem to somehow get the job done, and his style of play has been compared to the likes of Datsyuks. He is known for his coast to coast rushes and makes his presence felt as an electrifying phenom which comes as a rarity now a days. He has the highest reward if he reaches full potential; if he doesn't, he'll likely become a versatile 2nd/3rd liner with X factor abilities to break through here and there. Out of the 3, I personally would take Jurco just because of the Datsyukian like play and 'it' factor he has and it's something that is just a phenom which can't be explained, and the crazy potential he can reach if developed fully. Each 3 players play a different style of hockey and bring something unique to the table which the others don't. They all have their own pros and cons which you can decide for yourself. Similarity between all 3 is that all are 2nd round picks and play wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 If it's a deadline deal and they need to shed cap to make it fit, I'd love to get Bertuzzi back as a rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 How do you guys feel about this : To Edmonton Edler To Vancouver : Nurse Klefbom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 That'd be pretty cool but I doubt Bert comes back due to the damage that was done / the reputation. Cause of that doubt ownership would bring him back but if they did, it'd be nuts! Bert could slot in 4th line and solidify it. Imagine this: Bertuzzi - Santoerlli - Richardson as our 4th line....that's the type of 4th line that wins you the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks#01fan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I think we should keep edler rather than think of this as a must trade situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I think we should keep edler rather than think of this as a must trade situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I want Helm coming back to Vancouver in any Edler to Detroit trade. That'd be pretty cool but I doubt Bert comes back due to the damage that was done / the reputation. Cause of that doubt ownership would bring him back but if they did, it'd be nuts! Bert could slot in 4th line and solidify it. Imagine this: Bertuzzi - Santoerlli - Richardson as our 4th line....that's the type of 4th line that wins you the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat-is-Schneider Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 If you are dealing Edler and Schroeder, i would much rather see this To Det: Edler + Schroeder + 3rd To Van: Mantha + 1st + 2nd JS + 3rd = 1st Elder = Mantha + 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinkaruk98 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 If we're dealing Edler + Shroeder then we need to get Nqyuist + a solid D man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_forever Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I like it, although I still don't want to trade Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Edler for Smith, Jurco, Frk and a 2nd is what it would take for me. I would try to make it a first instead of a 2nd too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpush Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I don't understand why this board is full of trades involving Edler for unproven prospects. The Canucks had two disapointing playoffs but is still a team with a chance to contend for the cup, acquiring picks and prospects for Edler makes us a much worse team now and is no guarantee for a better team in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Are we rebuilding already? Why get unproven players for a top 4 d-man and a potential 3rd line centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 It's not rebuilding. It's trading an Edler who's been decling annually who still has value. Why not trade him of he keeps his rate of decline and doesn't perform to expectations , especially with the new hefty contract he has. I'd rather trade him than not specially considerng he is almost 30 and what are the chances he improves this late into his hockey career. Not likely, so yea, would rather trade him and get back value which isn't deserving of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpush Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It's not rebuilding. It's trading an Edler who's been decling annually who still has value. Why not trade him of he keeps his rate of decline and doesn't perform to expectations , especially with the new hefty contract he has. I'd rather trade him than not specially considerng he is almost 30 and what are the chances he improves this late into his hockey career. Not likely, so yea, would rather trade him and get back value which isn't deserving of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Do you know who else has been declining annually on this team, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Alex Burrows.......the list goes on, the team has declined from its peak of 2010 when everybody on the team overperformed. His contract really isn't too hefty either if you want to look at comparisons of his contract with points from the last 3 seasons he is paid at market rate. Maybe even below market rate. Edler 5 22pts, 49pts, 22pts Goligoski 4.6 27 pts , 30pts, 46 pts Martin 5 23pts, 23pts, 24pts Bogosian 5.14 14pts, 30pts, 17pts Wideman 5.25 22pts, 46pts, 40pts McDonagh 4.7 15pts, 25pts Again if he is traded, prospects and picks are not good enough, it is rebuilding if you get potential for quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiznac Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 If you are dealing Edler and Schroeder, i would much rather see this To Det: Edler + Schroeder + 3rd To Van: Mantha + 1st + 2nd JS + 3rd = 1st Elder = Mantha + 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Anyone who has watched this team for more than few years knows players like Edler don't grow on trees. And they remember how lucky we are to have Edler on this team. Especially with what happened to Bourdon. And with Connauton traded VAN doesn't have a single lefty offensive D close to making the team. Not to mention letting Ehrhoff and Salo go because the team decided to build around Edler years ago. This isn't a new development or anything. I highly question anyone who wants to trade Edler away right now without a guaranteed upgrade coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpush Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 None of the above players are nearly as dreadful as Edler is in his own end. Wideman also took the opposite of a hometown discount to play for an AHL team. If Edler wants to be considered a quality player, he needs to play at an acceptable level at BOTH ends of the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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