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One way to look at how dominant Gretzky was, is to look from a % margin over the next highest scorer in the league. He was consistently 40% to 60% higher in points than the next highest scorer! That is absolutely unbelievable.

For example, in 1983-84, Gretzky had 205pts. The 2nd highest scorer had 126pts. That is a 62% spread between Gretzky and the 2nd highest scorer. To see the equivalent in today's NHL, we can look at the 2011-12 season (the most recent full season). Malkin had 109pts, and Stamkos had 97pts. To have the equivalent % spread between 1st and 2nd, Malkin would need to have scored nearly 160pts with Stamkos at 97pts!!

Just food for thought. Gretzky was unbelievably dominant. True, he wouldn't get nearly the numbers he got in the 1980s, but from a % standpoint, he'd still be heads and shoulders above his peers.

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The 1986-87 season was spectacular for Gretzky as well. The top scorer list:

Gretzky - 183 pts

Kurri - 108 pts

Lemieux - 107 pts

Messier - 107 pts

Gilmour - 105 pts

So yes, in today's NHL, Gretzky would likely still have dominated. The difference between him and the 'next guy' is just too large not to think he wouldn't succeed with his natural talent.

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To Vancouver

Gretzky

To Edmonton

1st round pick for the next 3 years

Bo Horvat

Ryan Kesler

Alex Edler

Jason Garrison

Kevin Bieksa

David Booth

Brendan Gaunce

Alex Burrows

Chris Tanev

Then, we sign Mason Raymond, Grabovski, Selanne, Hainsey, Morrow, Whitney, Doug Murray, and Alberts

Sedin-Sedin-Gretzky

Selanne-Grabovski-Shinkaruk

Morrow-Richardson-Raymond

Weise-Santorelli-Lain

Hamhuis-Hainsey

Corrado-Whitney

Murray-Alberts

Luongo

Lack

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One way to look at how dominant Gretzky was, is to look from a % margin over the next highest scorer in the league. He was consistently 40% to 60% higher in points than the next highest scorer! That is absolutely unbelievable.

For example, in 1983-84, Gretzky had 205pts. The 2nd highest scorer had 126pts. That is a 62% spread between Gretzky and the 2nd highest scorer. To see the equivalent in today's NHL, we can look at the 2011-12 season (the most recent full season). Malkin had 109pts, and Stamkos had 97pts. To have the equivalent % spread between 1st and 2nd, Malkin would need to have scored nearly 160pts with Stamkos at 97pts!!

Just food for thought. Gretzky was unbelievably dominant. True, he wouldn't get nearly the numbers he got in the 1980s, but from a % standpoint, he'd still be heads and shoulders above his peers.

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I think a lot of folks forget that Gretzky created how the game is played today. To assume Gretzky would be playing the same as he did back in 1979 is unrealistic. He would be a 70 point guy today. Too small and too slow. A more motivated Kyle Wellwood.

The way the entire game is thought out today is a direct result of Gretzky . Mario Lemiuex is the reason why there is no more neutral zone holding or obstruction.

Would Crosby still score 120 points with the obstruction? No way. Does he even get 100 while getting PASTED into the ice by Scott Stevens?

Cmon. He is out of the league possibly in the same hospital where Eric Lindros still resides.

Does anyone even score 50 with the goalies 14 inch pads? blockers the size of maps? . At least they didnt have the ridiculous shoulder pads.

What about guys hacking you over the head with sticks or goons chasing after you up and down the ice so you need your own goon to protect you? Pretty tough to get 200 points when you only have one other linemate who can spell 3 syllable words.

You got guys 'shadowing' you everywhere , hooking and hacking you, trying to jam you into the ice. Its nothing like it is today. Today its all skating and flow. You dont need a goon for anything and you can barely body check anyone anymore.

Gretzky was so much better than the other players that by todays standards he would be 6ft 3, 200 pounds , could skate sideways as fast as anyone can skate forward. He can shoot the puck off the jumbotron into the goal in spite of a goalie trying to save it. He could disappear and reappear in front of the goalie with the puck out of thin air.

Who knows? When someone comes around way farther advanced than the best current players today, we will really see how good TGretzky and Lemiuex really were.

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kinda hard to make a topic on that considering gretzky doesn't play anymore.... but if your going out side of the box and imagined that he is playing well a hell of a lot. oh and you can't compare gretzky is his own unique pure talent.

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To Vancouver

Gretzky

To Edmonton

1st round pick for the next 3 years

Bo Horvat

Ryan Kesler

Alex Edler

Jason Garrison

Kevin Bieksa

David Booth

Brendan Gaunce

Alex Burrows

Chris Tanev

Then, we sign Mason Raymond, Grabovski, Selanne, Hainsey, Morrow, Whitney, Doug Murray, and Alberts

Sedin-Sedin-Gretzky

Selanne-Grabovski-Shinkaruk

Morrow-Richardson-Raymond

Weise-Santorelli-Lain

Hamhuis-Hainsey

Corrado-Whitney

Murray-Alberts

Luongo

Lack

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I think if the choppy skating scrawny 170 pound soaking wet Gretzky showed up 18 years old today he ends up being a hard working Kyle Wellwood.

The Gretzky who did show up in 1978 in Indianapolis had figured out in his head to play the game a way nobody had ever conceived before

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Gretz was a producer right up until he hung up the skates, there's no doubt in my mind that if a 20 year old perfect Gretzky clone could be made, he would easily crack the lineup and be much better than Kyle freakin' Wellwood.

Gretzky might have been the brightest hockey player to ever lace them up.

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The 1986-87 season was spectacular for Gretzky as well. The top scorer list:

Gretzky - 183 pts

Kurri - 108 pts

Lemieux - 107 pts

Messier - 107 pts

Gilmour - 105 pts

So yes, in today's NHL, Gretzky would likely still have dominated. The difference between him and the 'next guy' is just too large not to think he wouldn't succeed with his natural talent.

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If you're talking about Pittsburgh:

With today's offense, I'd assume he'd get between 150-160 points in his prime. Crosby is a 120-130 point guy when healthy. So Crosby plus a bit more.

Maybe Crosby, a solid prospect, and a 2nd? If that's not enough, make the 2nd a 1st.

If we're saying that he still scores 200 points and such, despite our current game style?

Crosby, Letang, Two 1st Round picks, and a solid prospect.

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