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It's not circumvention because he finished the contract. It was also a somewhat honest endeaver as know one knew if he'd play and how good he'd play. The understanding between them is what comes into question. If he told Ottawa that he was playing the next year for sure and they would enrich his contract then that is definitely circumvention. Can't prove that though unless both parties agree and if they do they'll both be in trouble. Alfie probably wouldn't even be alowed to play.

Saying they would pay him a premium and compared to the lower end of what he could make is allowable IMO. I would say as every player has a range of money they could get. The understanding could have been that we will pay you top dollar for what you're worth. In the long run $5.5m is hefty, and I think Ottawa made the right move but I'm excited to see him play in Detroit.

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So, they're going to change the "Luongo Rule" to grandfather in contracts the NHL had previously signed off on? No? Huh. Guess they are looking back.

Beyond that, I really don't know what they can do about Alfredsson. He finished his contract. While the Sens did have a cap hit lower than his actual salary in 2 of the 4 years on his contract, they also had a cap hit higher in the other 2 years. Their total cap hit equaled his actual salary paid at the end of the contract. The cap recapture rule only addresses teams getting a cap benefit over actual salary payed. Any punishment beyond that would be beyond the scope of what was negotiated with the NHLPA. (And according to CapGeek, Alfredsson's contract didn't even qualify for the cap recapture rule because it was a multi-year 35+ contract. Their only punishment would have been to have his full cap hit even if he didn't finish his contract. He did. End of story.)

In truth, this is only the latest example of a team getting away with cap circumvention without punishment. Both Savard and Pronger have back-diving long-term contracts that gave their teams a cap hit benefit in the year(s) they actually played under it. Since they're on LTIR and will almost certainly complete their contract without playing another game, Boston and Philly will have gotten the benefit without any of downside or the new CBA's punishment. And yet I haven't heard the NHL say they will look into whether or not they violated the last CBA.

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Another example is Kiprusoff. He's in the last year of a 6 yr, $35 million contract but is very likely to retire instead. This last year of his contract is clearly an "add-on" at $1.5 million.

If Kipper retires the Flames will have saved $5.5 million in cap space over the past 5 years.

Wonder if the NHL will investigate that.

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Ottawa columnist rips Alfie for ‘going to a dump like Detoilet’:

It’s a slow August Friday, so let’s shake it up a bit with a column from Matt Cooke’s favorite sports writer, the Ottawa Sun’s Don Brennan.

In his latest piece, Brennan expressed disappointment that former Senators captain Daniel Alfredsson was willing to throw away his Ottawa legacy to go to, of all places, Detroit.

He acknowledged the move was all about the money.

Without repeating Alfredsson’s chronology of how it all went down, the bottom line is he would have been handsomely rewarded had he stayed put. As well paid as he will be with the Red Wings? Maybe, or maybe a few hundred thousand shy of that. So a guy who has earned between $60-70 million from the Senators is going to a dump like Detoilet — and if you have ever visited Motown’s downtown, you can’t object to that classification — over a measly mil?

It’s nice that he’s taking the family on a “new adventure,” but the Alfredssons aren’t exactly on their way to Disney World. The boys are being torn from their friends and schools and hockey programs, and while their new house is sure to be in a ritzy neighbourhood, it’s not like Hugo and Loui will be able to play road hockey outside Joe Louis Arena while dad is at practice. The sticks would be stolen out of their hands.

Brennan, who said that Alfredsson revealed himself as “just another greedy athlete,” ended his piece with some strong words for Sens owner Eugene Melnyk.

Is Alfredsson, at age 40, worth $7 million a year? Of course not. As strictly a player, like he will be in Detroit, he’s valued about right at $3.5 million plus bonuses. But for all he’s done as a Senator, what he means to Ottawa and what he can still bring, $7 million is a bargain.

If Melnyk doesn’t see that, or couldn’t afford such an amount while acquiring Bobby Ryan, then we should all be worried for the Senators.

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Detoilet is an awful good description of that city. Highest crime rate, highest incidence of crime using a gun and highest per capital gun deaths for a major USA city. Barry should have brought ALfie up to speed on those stats before he sat down and had his family meeting about the move. He should be more than worried about his boys only having their hockey sticks stolen.

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I could see Barry intentionally holding back info from Alfie or the sens in order for Alfie to get more money, and therefore, Barry would also get more money.. In the end I would be happy as a sens fan tho cuz Ryan is just entering his prime and is a scoring machine.. I really hope Ottawa and Detroit play each other in the playoffs!!

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Excellent question, especially since it was neither a 35+ contract nor met the 7-year requirement for the cap recapture rule but still circumvented the cap. For me, it calls their intentions into question if they go after some contracts but not others, especially since they okayed them all to begin with. Why should some circumvention be okay but not others? Inconsistencies could also set up grounds for challenges later before an arbitrator.

Will be interesting to see what happens if he does retire.

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No team was handed out punishment except the Devils. The cap recapture rule was put in place to prevent teams from doing what they were doing. Punishing the Sens makes no sense now because there are so many of these contracts out there.

Just a hypothetical situation:

Imagine next season the Canucks buy out Luongo. Luongo being upset at how he was treated and the buyout lashes out in the media that the Canucks knew he wasn't playing out the last few years of his contract. Now the Canucks face punishment as well.

Now consider how many contracts like these are out there. Should all those teams have to fear that their player could potentially cost them just by shooting his mouth off? The one thing that the Alfie situation teaches us is how fast relationships can go sour.

Daly is right about this, it makes no sense looking back.

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