Warhippy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I just want to play devils advocate here. Cody Franson is from Salmon Arm BC. His brother Cain Franson just hit the young stars tourney for Vancouver this weekend. He is 6 foot 5 inches and currently listed at 228 pounds. Has played a total of 243 games in this league, healthy I might add for the most part and has scored 100 points in the regular season. He has played 23 games for 13 points in the playoffs in his career. If this guy doesn't scream offer sheet who does? He's local, young potential family tie with the team big skates well scored helps in clutch situations and I might add....shoots right Offer his camp $2.2 million a year. Reason why? According to Mckenzie, Kadri is asking for $7 million over 2 years for a bridge contract and the Leafs are offering $5.7 million. Now with Mckenzie I am inclined to believe there's some monetary truth to that. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=431512 The Leafs reportedly have roughly $5 million in cap space. At $2.2 or even $2.3 million this handcuffs the Leafs. They need Kadri at center have no buyouts left and a stable of comparable young defensemen including young Morgan Reilly. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=431429 The Leafs would quite literally have to let him make the decision to sign or to counter and risk losing Kadri which for the future of the team they absolutely cannot do. Your defensemen for the Canucks. Bieksa, Edler, Garrison, Tanev, Hamhuis. Weber Alberts Corrado (in no particular order) Add in Franson and the young depth we saw in Penticton including Tommernes, Guilmond, Cederholm and Subban in the near future (2-4 years) that is depth that cannot be overlooked on the blueline with size and or skill spread throughout. Any worry of future offer sheets would be tempered by the fact the cap is rising and could be $90 million by 2020, the Canucks are a cap team and would have room or depth to bargain from a position of if not power at least comfortability in being able to offer our RFA's a chance to seriously compete. If $2.3 million gets Cody Franson out of Toronto, one would be crazy to not see if it was an option. How...much cap room do we have again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So many things wrong... just don't. Stop posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I say offer sheet franson for 2.7 or however much cap we have, maybe 2.7 per for 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 He wants 4 million per Did you even watch him play? He's a phenomenal player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 So many things wrong... just don't. Stop posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So many things wrong? Please show me what is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 So you're saying Bieksa is worth more than him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I just want to play devils advocate here. Cody Franson is from Salmon Arm BC. His brother Cain Franson just hit the young stars tourney for Vancouver this weekend. He is 6 foot 5 inches and currently listed at 228 pounds. Has played a total of 243 games in this league, healthy I might add for the most part and has scored 100 points in the regular season. He has played 23 games for 13 points in the playoffs in his career. If this guy doesn't scream offer sheet who does? He's local, young potential family tie with the team big skates well scored helps in clutch situations and I might add....shoots right Offer his camp $2.2 million a year. Reason why? According to Mckenzie, Kadri is asking for $7 million over 2 years for a bridge contract and the Leafs are offering $5.7 million. Now with Mckenzie I am inclined to believe there's some monetary truth to that. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=431512 The Leafs reportedly have roughly $5 million in cap space. At $2.2 or even $2.3 million this handcuffs the Leafs. They need Kadri at center have no buyouts left and a stable of comparable young defensemen including young Morgan Reilly. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=431429 The Leafs would quite literally have to let him make the decision to sign or to counter and risk losing Kadri which for the future of the team they absolutely cannot do. Your defensemen for the Canucks. Bieksa, Edler, Garrison, Tanev, Hamhuis. Weber Alberts Corrado (in no particular order) Add in Franson and the young depth we saw in Penticton including Tommernes, Guilmond, Cederholm and Subban in the near future (2-4 years) that is depth that cannot be overlooked on the blueline with size and or skill spread throughout. Any worry of future offer sheets would be tempered by the fact the cap is rising and could be $90 million by 2020, the Canucks are a cap team and would have room or depth to bargain from a position of if not power at least comfortability in being able to offer our RFA's a chance to seriously compete. If $2.3 million gets Cody Franson out of Toronto, one would be crazy to not see if it was an option. How...much cap room do we have again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Where am I saying that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinkaruk98 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Ok, do you think Bieksa is worth 4M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I love Bieksa, but Franson>>Bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Ok, do you think Bieksa is worth 4M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 For Kadri is that $7 million a year for 2 years or $7 million total over 2 years? And we have ~$2.2 million of cap left, so we would have to dump Booth's contract if we wanted to go after Kadri or Franson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 WHY WOULD GET LILES IN WHICH WE HAVE A PROVEN NUMBER 1 DMAN IN EDLER COMMON SENSE PEOPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Offer sheet Franson about 2.9 mill x 4 or 5 years. Secret handshake(under the table) that his WHOLE FRE_KIN' FAMILY can get a job pickin' blueberries on one of FA's farms-should be the clincher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Sedin - Sedin - Kassian Burrows - Kadri- Kesler Booth - Hovat - Hansen Higgins -Richardson-Weise Garrison - Bieksa Hamhuis - Franson Edler - Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Sedin - Sedin - Kassian Burrows - Kadri- Kesler Booth - Hovat - Hansen Higgins -Richardson-Weise Garrison - Bieksa Hamhuis - Franson Edler - Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So many things wrong? Please show me what is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Toronto can get way more for liles, they could probably get a 3rd round pick for liles not anthony, who is a nobody. And we don't have the cap space. Why would we want kadri for a 1st and 3rd? And 5 million? He hanst proved he's worth it yet. And I personally don't think he is, he startd great but tailed off near the end and the playoffs, and that's in a 48 game season, imagine how bad he would have done in a 82 game season. The most I would give him is 2 million and he wouldn't sign that. And the fhing with franson, he's wouldn't sign for 1 million, probably 3 at the least. And I would not trade edler fr macdonald and picks, he's worth more then that, what I would do is offer Franson 2.7 for 4 years. Toronto won't match and we give up a minor draft pick. We get franson who is a great offensove d man from B.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 How do you propose we get both Kadri AND Franson without making any prior trades to fit the team under the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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