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Lots of discussion who is a PMD after the canucks lost ehrhoff and realized how important it is to have one ( moved puck out of zone , jump in plays, properly qb a pp).... But who realistically is one they could trade for or sign? these types of dmen are hard to find....

Andy Greene?

Brian Campbell? (My pick)

Andrej Sekera?

Christian Ehrhoff? (Doubt he'll return)

Dustin Bfugylien?

Michael Del Zotto?

Pickings are surprisingly slim.... Does this mean we should acquire one by drafting?

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Campbell is the only one worth considering.

Cheapest to get, Stanley cup experience, works with Garrison immediately and has played extensively in the west.

We could attempt to trade up for Honka, and continue developing Subban and use our 2nd and 3rd round picks to draft larger D men as well if needed who also have those puck moving abilities (Vanier/Mantha/Mattsson)

But in a trade Campbell is the guy we'd need

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I would ask the Islanders about picking up Lubomir Visnovsky. He has another couple years on his deal, but he is what is needed for the PP. Pair him up as the number 5 defensemen for a regular shift, and give him the full two minutes on the PP.

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It can't be any puck moving defense man, it's got to be one that is a smooth skater, and has explosive speed. That takes out 80% of your list.

Until we have explosive speedsters on our team at the forward positions speedy D isn't as important
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Until we have explosive speedsters on our team at the forward positions speedy D isn't as important

Your statement makes no sense. The Canucks transition game is severely lacking, and need a defense man can rush into the offensive zone, to allow the Twins to get set up.

If there was a speedy forwards, then there would be no point of a speedy D, because you'll already have options to enter the zone. Understand, the team is lacking overall speed. The Twins have average speed, and it's because Ehrhoff could move as well as he could, that he gave the Twins the extra space, and time to put up Art Ross type seasons.

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Your statement makes no sense. The Canucks transition game is severely, and need a defense man can rush into the offensive zone, to allow the Twins to get set up.

While I decipher this,

Our best PP years were with a smooth skating D man named Ehrhoff who set up fast guys like Kesler Malhotra, Samuellson and Raymond who could rush the zone the second the drop pass was executed or take that awesome break out pass.

We don't have the complimentary players for a fast skating PMD. We just need a smooth skating one to help for the moment

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While I decipher this,

Our best PP years were with a smooth skating D man named Ehrhoff who set up fast guys like Kesler Malhotra, Samuellson and Raymond who could rush the zone the second the drop pass was executed or take that awesome break out pass.

We don't have the complimentary players for a fast skating PMD. We just need a smooth skating one to help for the moment

Ehrhoff set up the Twins, who put up monster points with Ehrhoff. Malholtra and Samuelsson weren't fast skaters, and neither of the guys you mentioned, did anything with Ehrhoff, aside from Kesler, who was on the PP. The reason, why the PP was so successful, is because of Ehrhoff.

Ehrhoff is a fast skater, so no idea what you are even talking about. smooth skating defense man, are generally fast.

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Ehrhoff set up the Twins, who put up monster points with Ehrhoff. Malholtra and Samuelsson weren't fast skaters, and neither of the guys you mentioned, did anything with Ehrhoff, aside from Kesler, who was on the PP. The reason, why the PP was so successful, is because of Ehrhoff.

Ehrhoff is a fast skater, so no idea what you are even talking about. smooth skating defense man, are generally fast.

Samuelsson a chunk of the year on the pp with Ehrhoff when edler was injured. Malhotra also played on the second pp unit.

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Ehrhoff set up the Twins, who put up monster points with Ehrhoff. Malholtra and Samuelsson weren't fast skaters, and neither of the guys you mentioned, did anything with Ehrhoff, aside from Kesler, who was on the PP. The reason, why the PP was so successful, is because of Ehrhoff.

Ehrhoff is a fast skater, so no idea what you are even talking about. smooth skating defense man, are generally fast.

Raymond is a fast skater. Not a smooth one.

There is a difference between striding and gliding

Manny was indeed a fast one. Samuelsson for his size also had great speed from a standing start. Ehrhoff wasn't really fast but is a great skater.

Campbell is the guy we need and makes the most sense while we draft and develop others

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Until we have explosive speedsters on our team at the forward positions speedy D isn't as important

Nope, a smooth skating D man of Ehrhoff caliber can make our PP click and make our transition game much better. You have no idea what you are talking about. Plus we have some speedsters on our team like Kesler, Burrows, Booth, Schroeder etc.

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Raymond is a fast skater. Not a smooth one.

There is a difference between striding and gliding

Manny was indeed a fast one. Samuelsson for his size also had great speed from a standing start. Ehrhoff wasn't really fast but is a great skater.

Campbell is the guy we need and makes the most sense while we draft and develop others

Raymond was fast and smooth, the only problem is that he was a winger, and didn't read plays properly, and wasn't needed to set up plays.

Ehrhoffs a great skater but isn't a fast skater? That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. That's why, they are called PP QB. They have to set up plays.

Smooth skaters are fast skaters. there's no difference.

Hanks is a slow skater, but are you going to say he's a smooth skater, because he has great vision and can set up plays? That's laughable. He sets up play because he's a Center.

Being an set up man is irrelevant to skating speed. They are a complete different attribute.

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Nope, a smooth skating D man of Ehrhoff caliber can make our PP click and make our transition game much better. You have no idea what you are talking about. Plus we have some speedsters on our team like Kesler, Burrows, Booth, Schroeder etc.

You have no idea what YOU are talking about.

I am saying we NEED a smooth skating D man, not a fSPEEDY one. Kesler and Burrows are about as fast as we get because until Schroeder plays a meaningful set of games, he is not on our team.

You are literally arguing the same point and argument that I have...against me....

Jesus man read the whole comment before commenting.

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Raymond was fast and smooth, the only problem is that he was a winger, and didn't read plays properly, and wasn't needed to set up plays.

Ehrhoffs a great skater but isn't a fast skater? That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. That's why, they are called PP QB. They have to set up plays.

Smooth skaters are fast skaters. there's no difference.

Hanks is a slow skater, but are you going to say he's a smooth skater, because he has great vision and can set up plays? That's laughable. He sets up play because he's a Center.

Being an set up man is irrelevant to skating speed. They are a complete different attribute.

And this is where you lose all credibility in the argument via contradiction.

There are hundreds of examples of smooth skaters that are not fast skaters in this league. The largest of which would be Joe Thorton.

Campbell is not a fast skater but is a premier set up PMD because he has great vision, amazing passing ability and can skate very well. Not fast but well.

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