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This trade would definatelt be a blockbuster, but probably would never happen.

Vancouver acquires

-Dustin Byfuglien

-Andrew Ladd

-Evander Kane

Winnipeg acquires

-Brendan Gaunce

-Zack Kassian

-Jannik Hansen

-David Booth

-1st in 2015

-2nd in 2014

-4th in 2014

Probably going to get bashed for it... But if it was to happen. We get a guy who can play with the Sedins who can plant himself on front of the bet. And 2 local boys, both who can score. Lads who is a good 2 way forward and can compliment Kesler and a speedy scoring winger who I think has yet to reach potential. All are under 30 but they do cost quite a bit. (Another reason this probably wouldn't work out)

I don't think Kassian will ever be the player we thought he can be. Gaunce because I'd rather lose him then Horvat or Shinkaruk. Hansen because he is still young and has potential. And Booth to send some money there way.

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That would be enough to get you Kane and some of Andrew Ladd. Add some more like a Shinkaruk or an Edler and youre getting there

Those are the two I'd want. The Jets can keep Buff.

And I'd like to see the Canucks keep Kass.

To get the valuations closer to something the Jets might consider: maybe the Canucks add Shinkaruk and Edler, upgrade the 2014 2nd rounder to a 2015 pick (deeper draft), and forget about the 2014 4th rounder.

So maybe something like this?

To Vancouver:

Andrew Ladd

Evander Kane

Total AAV: $9,650,000 (for 2 players)

To Winnipeg:

Alex Edler

Jannik Hansen

David Booth

Brendan Gaunce

Hunter Shinkaruk

2014 1st round pick

2015 2nd round pick

Total AAV (active NHL players): $10,600,000 (for 3 players)

The Canucks can look to upgrade their D in the offseason. Finish out 2013-14 with the current group, minus Edler, but with Corrado called-up. Maybe look to add a 2014 UFA like Andrej Meszaros who, despite his flaws, is a superior puckrushing defenseman to anyone the Canucks have had since Ehrhoff. And Meszaros is still good for around 30 points/season (he's been 0.40 points/game or better for most of career) and plays both sides equally well (a rare quality in Vancouver).

Keep Ladd as LW and put Kane on RW (since he can play either side). Play them on Kesler's wings to form a 1B line (Sedin-Sedin-Burrows is the 1A and becomes the "first line" in name only).

So for 2014-15 (and just for demonstation purposes--the D pairings and bottom-six arrangement, and some of the players, could be different):

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER

CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)

Andrew Ladd ($4.400m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Evander Kane ($5.250m)

Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Bo Horvat ($0.925m) / Zack Kassian ($2.000m)

Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Jordan Schroeder ($0.660m)

Zac Dalpe ($0.605m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Chris Tanev ($3.000m)

Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)

Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)

Frank Corrado ($0.591m) / Yannick Weber ($0.715m)

GOALTENDERS

Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)

Eddie Lack ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS

Keith Ballard ($0.000m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(estimations for 2014-15)

SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,779,444; BONUSES: $858,333

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $320,556

Canucks lose some physicality on their D with Edler's departure. Meszaros is pretty big but he's similar to Garrison in not using his size/strength consistently or often enough. Hopefully, Stanton brings out more of his physical game as he gets more NHL experience and confidence, allowing Stanton-Bieksa to be more of a punishing, physical pairing. Meszaros-Garrison could be potent offensively (albeit an occasional adventure in their own zone) with Meszaros rushing the puck up ice and looking to setup Garrison's big shot. Hamhuis-Tanev remains the #1 shutdown pairing.

Where the Canucks truly gain is on the 2nd line (which is basically a legitimate NHL first line), which frees up the twins from carrying the big load. Ladd-Kesler-Kane could be a monster line.

Also, I think Meszaros could really be a good option for adding an actual puckrusher to the D, which would have the potential to improve the PP and the forward lines 5v5 production (and having two 1st lines wouldn't exactly hurt either ;)).

Anyway, just spitballin' for a minute based on the proposals in this thread.

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Instead of Buf using his size in front of the net, why not promote Tom Sestito to the first line. With minimal ice time, he's got 5 goals and by far the best shooting percentage on the team. He was a 40 goal scorer in Junior and can add some toughness to that line. The twins could use the protection and he would be a huge presence in front of the net. Phil Esposito did the same for the Boston Bruins in the 70's and scored over 50 goals five times. He was a huge guy with soft hands that nobody could budge from in front of the net.

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Those are the two I'd want. The Jets can keep Buff.

And I'd like to see the Canucks keep Kass.

To get the valuations closer to something the Jets might consider: maybe the Canucks add Shinkaruk and Edler, upgrade the 2014 2nd rounder to a 2015 pick (deeper draft), and forget about the 2014 4th rounder.

So maybe something like this?

To Vancouver:

Andrew Ladd

Evander Kane

Total AAV: $9,650,000 (for 2 players)

To Winnipeg:

Alex Edler

Jannik Hansen

David Booth

Brendan Gaunce

Hunter Shinkaruk

2014 1st round pick

2015 2nd round pick

Total AAV (active NHL players): $10,600,000 (for 3 players)

The Canucks can look to upgrade their D in the offseason. Finish out 2013-14 with the current group, minus Edler, but with Corrado called-up. Maybe look to add a 2014 UFA like Andrej Meszaros who, despite his flaws, is a superior puckrushing defenseman to anyone the Canucks have had since Ehrhoff. And Meszaros is still good for around 30 points/season (he's been 0.40 points/game or better for most of career) and plays both sides equally well (a rare quality in Vancouver).

Keep Ladd as LW and put Kane on RW (since he can play either side). Play them on Kesler's wings to form a 1B line (Sedin-Sedin-Burrows is the 1A and becomes the "first line" in name only).

So for 2014-15 (and just for demonstation purposes--the D pairings and bottom-six arrangement, and some of the players, could be different):

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER

CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)

Andrew Ladd ($4.400m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Evander Kane ($5.250m)

Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Bo Horvat ($0.925m) / Zack Kassian ($2.000m)

Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Jordan Schroeder ($0.660m)

Zac Dalpe ($0.605m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Chris Tanev ($3.000m)

Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)

Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)

Frank Corrado ($0.591m) / Yannick Weber ($0.715m)

GOALTENDERS

Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)

Eddie Lack ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS

Keith Ballard ($0.000m)

------

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(estimations for 2014-15)

SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,779,444; BONUSES: $858,333

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $320,556

Canucks lose some physicality on their D with Edler's departure. Meszaros is pretty big but he's similar to Garrison in not using his size/strength consistently or often enough. Hopefully, Stanton brings out more of his physical game as he gets more NHL experience and confidence, allowing Stanton-Bieksa to be more of a punishing, physical pairing. Meszaros-Garrison could be potent offensively (albeit an occasional adventure in their own zone) with Meszaros rushing the puck up ice and looking to setup Garrison's big shot. Hamhuis-Tanev remains the #1 shutdown pairing.

Where the Canucks truly gain is on the 2nd line (which is basically a legitimate NHL first line), which frees up the twins from carrying the big load. Ladd-Kesler-Kane could be a monster line.

Also, I think Meszaros could really be a good option for adding an actual puckrusher to the D, which would have the potential to improve the PP and the forward lines 5v5 production (and having two 1st lines wouldn't exactly hurt either ;)).

Anyway, just spitballin' for a minute based on the proposals in this thread.

I'd take that deal. Those are all actually good pieces that we just don't have a need for if we make that trade. This years lineup would be filthy and definately a cup contender and we add 2 great pieces and BC boys who are under contract for 2 years after this one. (3 for kane but ladd is 2.) That lineup next year also looks filthy and we keep some prospects that we can use like Horvat, Jensen, Corrado, etc. Add Eriksson or another b level prospect with little value to us and I think it's a good solid deal that can be done. You have to give to get.

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