Absent Canuck Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If we somehow got Bennett because of strength issues , we should all be greatful. If we get him at 6th and didnt rush him into the league and baked him for another year or two, he could be a great player one day. I believe Nylander and Ehlers to be the better prospects. Its not a popular opinion now, and I understand. Its the way I feel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I believe Nylander and Ehlers to be the better prospects. Its not a popular opinion now, and I understand. Its the way I feel . After the combine..I think the scouts are drooling over Nylander...Who knows,he may go in the top 5..especially after U18's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 lol nice try. I know him personally and he has been 206 for quite some time now LOL your so full of shit it's funny. Just like Absent Canuck. It's funny how you guys make things up and not come up with any proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 After the combine..I think the scouts are drooling over Nylander...Who knows,he may go in the top 5..especially after U18's Unless some other shoe drops I bet he goes by #5 to the Islanders. That will leave Dal Colle for us I hope so anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Unless some other shoe drops I bet he goes by #5 to the Islanders. That will leave Dal Colle for us I hope so anyways. At least we know we are getting dal colle or nylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 In the Craig Button Draft thread, it was said that Nylander was rated top-3 by a few NHL teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's probably already posted here..Nylander at U18's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiPD0fWSRU8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Belfort Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nylander looks big out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I am wondering if Bennett is going to fall in the draft because of not being able to do those pull-ups..?...Not because I don't think he's going to be a good player,but because of fanbase perceptions...Ryan Nugent Hopkins also had a weak undeveloped upper body (he could only do one bench press and was picked 1st overall) Nylander is a stronger than everybody thought..I've noticed that the girly talk has stopped lately...He's 170 lbs now...I bet when he's 20-21 he will be around 195 lbs. My opinion of Nylander has changed a bit since the combine. I was thinking he was a 9-11 pick in this draft. 1-3 pick overall talent but had other issues. Looks like I was wrong, this kid takes his training very seriously at a young age just like "Bure" did. If hes there at 6th and we take him id be fine with that. The Sedins can mentor him until they retire. Im thinking he will be gone by 6th now though, and we may get a top 5 and all be happy at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nylander looks big out there. I dont think he looks that big but damn he looks fast.... hes on another level then the other kids in those games its funny. Hes going top 5 probably, you cant pass up that kind of talent in a weaker draft. Looks like adding muscle mass wont be a problem for him either, he obviously trains like a champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Nylanderrrrr Seriously he would improve our powerplay immediately. He's got the really quick acceleration that not many players have. I'm fine with us taking Nylander at 6 if Benning does, but I think one of the east teams will be making a play for him. Also fine with Dal Colle or Draisaitl at 6 if available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 My opinion of Nylander has changed a bit since the combine. I was thinking he was a 9-11 pick in this draft. 1-3 pick overall talent but had other issues. Looks like I was wrong, this kid takes his training very seriously at a young age just like "Bure" did. If hes there at 6th and we take him id be fine with that. The Sedins can mentor him until they retire. Im thinking he will be gone by 6th now though, and we may get a top 5 and all be happy at the end of the day. Yep. I took Ehlers before Nylander but now take him before Ehlers. The reports of him being childish were bull crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Belfort Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I would personally rather Nylander than Dal Colle and possibly even Bennett. I just hope he still is there at 6 or Draisaitl is the one who falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLocke Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 LOL your so full of sh!t it's funny. Just like Absent Canuck. It's funny how you guys make things up and not come up with any proof. Sarcasm detection fail... And it's you're, not your. Grammar fail too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If we somehow got Bennett because of strength issues , we should all be greatful. If we get him at 6th and didnt rush him into the league and baked him for another year or two, he could be a great player one day. It would be amazing because pull ups have absolutely no impact on how potentially good of an NHL player a kid can become. The excercise that has been proven to have the most impact on how good of a future NHL player will be is the standing long jump. Bennett was one of the most impressive there with obviously room to mature and develop physically. I'm not a huge fan of his game but if he fell to us because he can't do pull ups then we should be dam happy. Standing long jump is the best predictor for potential NHL success https://twitter.com/bodybyobrien/status/473171048197001216 Bennett having the most impressive jumping ability that this guy has worked with (Crosby, Mckinnon ect.) https://twitter.com/bodybyobrien/status/473172117043675136 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Cody Hodgson is a #1 centerman too. Case closed. Even you could be a #1 centerman on 'some' teams .. perspective and relativity are everything i.e. Atoms versus NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Chicken chicken wing wing holla holla boom boom punch me in the chunky getvall monkey. Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It would be amazing because pull ups have absolutely no impact on how potentially good of an NHL player a kid can become. The excercise that has been proven to have the most impact on how good of a future NHL player will be is the standing long jump. Bennett was one of the most impressive there with obviously room to mature and develop physically. I'm not a huge fan of his game but if he fell to us because he can't do pull ups then we should be dam happy. Standing long jump is the best predictor for potential NHL successhttps://twitter.com/bodybyobrien/status/473171048197001216 Bennett having the most impressive jumping ability that this guy has worked with (Crosby, Mckinnon ect.)https://twitter.com/bodybyobrien/status/473172117043675136 I heard this several times in the past but I've never been exactly certain why it is. Combination of leg strength, core strength and flexibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 My opinion of Nylander has changed a bit since the combine. I was thinking he was a 9-11 pick in this draft. 1-3 pick overall talent but had other issues. Looks like I was wrong, this kid takes his training very seriously at a young age just like "Bure" did. If hes there at 6th and we take him id be fine with that. The Sedins can mentor him until they retire. Im thinking he will be gone by 6th now though, and we may get a top 5 and all be happy at the end of the day. IMO every indicator shows that Nylander is a good bet to adapt to both the NA game and NA lifestyle easily. He played and lived here before, and he has familial experience to draw upon in making the adjustment. He has the skills and every advantage. He should succeed. If he fails to establish himself as an NHL player it will only be because he wasn't mentally ready to do what was necessary. This includes learning to play responsibly defensively, learning to take the increased hitting, and being patient over years to work his way into a role. I do think another year in Sweden would benefit him but he could be a good bet to be a 19 yo AHLer. How long he needs there will be up to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I heard this several times in the past but I've never been exactly certain why it is. Combination of leg strength, core strength and flexibility? "Abstract The purposes of this study were (a) to determine the measurement device and jumping protocol most appropriate for testing the leg power of elite hockey players and ( b ) to assess the relationship of leg power measurements to hockey playing ability as indicated by draft selection order. Comparisons were made of leg power measurements from the top 95 players entering the National Hockey League Entry Draft using 2 devices (Vertec and Just Jump) and 2 jump protocols (countermovement and squat). Players' leg powers were ranked from highest to lowest power using each device and protocol and were correlated with draft selection order. Vertec leg power measurements were highest (5,511-5,631 W), but there were no significant differences in power between the 2 jumping protocols on either device. Vertec squat jump provided the highest correlation (0.47) between leg power ranking and selection order and was judged to most closely approximate the full-body coordinated movements involved in hockey. The Vertec device using a squat jump protocol is most appropriate for coaches and fitness specialists to use when evaluating hockey potential based on the off-ice leg power measurements of elite hockey players." This kind of explains it...not so much why it horizontal or vertical jumping corelate to determining success of draft picks but that these two excersises have the most corelation to draft ranking. I.E the higher draft picks have higher scores in these exercises vs lower draft picks. That's at least how I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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