Swanny Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 If nothing else, you can definitely say the Canucks have been consistent. A look at their 43 year history shows an almost perfect set of 10-12 years cycles of ascendency and decline. They entered the league in 1970/71, took 12 seasons to reach the finals in 1981/82, fell into decline until the early 1990s then reached the finals again in 93/94 (12 seasons after their first run), then fell into decline until the early 2000s when the "West Coast Express" era brought them to the conference semi-finals in 2002/03 before losing in 7 to the Wild, then the Bertuzzi debacle and almost another decade of decline and ascendency leading to the last cup finals loss to the Bruins in 2010/11. No one should seriously doubt we are heading into another era of decline and if the past is an indicator of the future, we can expect the ascendency of another elite Canucks team somewhere around 2020-2022. Patience my friends, patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 All teams cycle - the key is to make sure the low isn't too low while building towards the next contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Or it might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 We'll see. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Get some legit, winning-capable franchise players and that cycle accelerates immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 History said we should have won the cup in 2011 after hosting the Olympics in 2010 (same thing happened in Montreal and Calgary). How'd that work out? The law of averages tells us trends are made to be broken lacking any other consistent variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Lack has a 1-3-1, 1.19, .954 in last 5 GPI. That usually wins you every single game. The Canucks aren't scoring at all. I personally think that Shinkaruk and Horvat ought to have been kept on the team. Shinkaruk is a total sparkplug; Kessel style. I certainly hope they're both on the team next year. Scoring for the Canucks MUST be taken care of if such a long wait is to be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-Dong Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 History said we should have won the cup in 2011 after hosting the Olympics in 2010 (same thing happened in Montreal and Calgary). How'd that work out? The law of averages tells us trends are made to be broken lacking any other consistent variables. History is not the same thing as coincidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckBoss Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 History said we should have won the cup in 2011 after hosting the Olympics in 2010 (same thing happened in Montreal and Calgary). How'd that work out? The law of averages tells us trends are made to be broken lacking any other consistent variables. History is not the same thing as coincidences. Or history repeated it self After hosting Olympics you will reach the finals?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuongovsTuuka Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The Canucks should be fine since they are a team that spends to the cap. Teams that stay at pr near the bottom of the league usually are cap floor teams. I see it more like what the Flyers went through the year they bottomed out and got JVR in the draft. The Canucks might hit bottom next year, totally depends on the off season (draft, UFA, etc.), but I don't see the rebuild going beyond two seasons since the fanbase has no patience and so ownership won't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 shinkaruk lost an entire year of development due to injury. i doubt he gets more than the nine games and for good reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 All teams cycle - the key is to make sure the low isn't too low while building towards the next contender. Right. Basically we don't want to be Edmonton. And I don't think we want to be like Pitts or Chicago either where they sucked for nearly 10-15 years before they got lucky (Chicago got #1 overall to pick Kane despite having only the 4th highest probability to win the lottery and Pittsburgh got Crosby despite there being I think 9 other teams with equal probability of landing #1 in that draft). If we have to rely on that kind of luck in the rebuild, something is off and we have the wrong management group. We should be like I guess ANA (or even LA or SJS) rather than like CHI and Pittsburgh. Be good enough to make the playoffs and play good entertaining hockey. And in the occasional down years, make smart trades to bring in picks and young guys to help stay competitive for the future years. For example, ANA picked Lindholm last year using the 6th overall pick (last season was their down season much like this is ours) and Lindholm is already contributing to the team. Lack has a 1-3-1, 1.19, .954 in last 5 GPI. That usually wins you every single game. The Canucks aren't scoring at all. I personally think that Shinkaruk and Horvat ought to have been kept on the team. Shinkaruk is a total sparkplug; Kessel style. I certainly hope they're both on the team next year. Scoring for the Canucks MUST be taken care of if such a long wait is to be avoided. I doubt Shinkaruk would have helped/stayed beyond 9 games. He was already in some pain and was playing through it just to get a shot at the NHL. The opposing team is not going to go easy on his body during the regular season... It could lead to really severe injuries if he continued to play through the pain. He has at least a decade of good hockey ahead of him, no need to worsen the injury for one year of hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 No. No. We need to win while I'm in my 20s. Not an old man in my 30s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 History is not the same thing as coincidences. That's kinda my point, but thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-Dong Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Right. Basically we don't want to be Edmonton. And I don't think we want to be like Pitts or Chicago either where they sucked for nearly 10-15 years before they got lucky (Chicago got #1 overall to pick Kane despite having only the 4th highest probability to win the lottery and Pittsburgh got Crosby despite there being I think 9 other teams with equal probability of landing #1 in that draft). If we have to rely on that kind of luck in the rebuild, something is off and we have the wrong management group. We should be like I guess ANA (or even LA or SJS) rather than like CHI and Pittsburgh. Be good enough to make the playoffs and play good entertaining hockey. And in the occasional down years, make smart trades to bring in picks and young guys to help stay competitive for the future years. For example, ANA picked Lindholm last year using the 6th overall pick (last season was their down season much like this is ours) and Lindholm is already contributing to the team. Exactly. Thank you for this. With all of the dumb comments on this board, it's refreshing to see someone else that actually takes a look at the big picture and reality of the situation. No team stays on top and competitive forever. Every team has its fall in the standings. It's how you recover from it that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it Story of Canucks management. Either that or they willingly make these questionable moves. The wait goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-Dong Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 That's kinda my point, but thanks. I'm sorry about that. When I read your original comment, I interpreted it in a way that was different than how you had intended for it to be read. With some of the comments on this board it becomes difficult to differentiate between idiocy and sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I agree, and no harm done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Cap era is supposed to make these cycles shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjavaman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 2022 cup champs, I hope I'm still alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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