Canuckseeesh Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Seriously it's really depressing how so many people are counting out the canucks. I mean yes the chances are very slim but come on, don't be saying stuff like "winning games at this point is useless" and other discouraging stuff about how the organization needs to start losing games on purpose. if you look at it if we get on a streak we're very much in this. also if you think about it, as much as highly touted prospect sounds great and all, that's another player taking a potential job of one of our current players so finishing strong will most likely be the case for this team. Anyways that's all i wanted to say, don't give up just yet. We still got a chance, and if we get in expect us to do some damage (la kings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Okay no. The LA team that went on to win the cup was a team that should of won the Presidents Trophy and just couldn't score and they then acquired Carter and had a coaching change which got the "lazy" stars performing at their highest level. This Canucks team is no where near as skilled as the LA team was/is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyPB Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 OP If we lose ONCE in regulation we can't mathematically make the playoffs hence the tanking movement and gloom. Can this team go perfect for the rest of this season? It's possible. Unicorns are also possible. So are aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 OP If we lose ONCE in regulation we can't mathematically make the playoffs hence the tanking movement and gloom. Can this team go perfect for the rest of this season? It's possible. Unicorns are also possible. So are aliens. The difference is that Aliens are far more possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyPB Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The difference is that Aliens are far more possible. If the Canucks make the playoffs I'm gonna grow wings and fly Bettman into the sun while singing Bohemian rhapsody in space. Quote me. I know this is possible somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The 2012 Kings were the exception. Not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JiffyPB Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I looked this up. There is a 1/112 million chance you get killed by a vending machine. I think it's more possible someone on CDC gets killed by a vending machine rather than the canucks making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 OP If we lose ONCE in regulation we can't mathematically make the playoffs hence the tanking movement and gloom. Can this team go perfect for the rest of this season? It's possible. Unicorns are also possible. So are aliens.It's more likely that this team makes the play-offs than tanks.0% chance this team purposefully loses games2%~ chance it makes the play-offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Lets all try to gather some perspective. This team won the Presidents trophy ..........and won a single playoff game. 1-0 . To add insult to injury, we draft 26th. We then win our division............and proceed to get blown off the playoff map. To add insult to injury, we have to draft 24th. Trying to gather heroics .............all to get blown out of the playoffs in 4 straight, will only serve to net us a lousy draft pick yet again. Lets not. We need to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Lets all try to gather some perspective. This team won the Presidents trophy ..........and won a single playoff game. 1-0 . To add insult to injury, we draft 26th. We then win our division............and proceed to get blown off the playoff map. To add insult to injury, we have to draft 24th. Trying to gather heroics .............all to get blown out of the playoffs in 4 straight, will only serve to net us a lousy draft pick yet again. Lets not. We need to rebuild. god bless you ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckseeesh Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 see that's what i don't understand cause lets assume we win the next 5 games going 5-0 our record 77 gp and 84 points and at the same time PHX goes 3-5 losing the 5 against, nyr, njd, bos, fla, pit record 77 gp and 83 points DAL goes 4-5 losing against losing against, PHI, OTT, WSH, CAR, TAMPA record 77 gp and 83 points doesn't this mean we're in the race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilgore Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I'll still carry hope along with the players themselves until they know they are out mathematically. Stranger things have happened. We'd have to get on an incredible roll and either Dallas or Phoenix has a taste of the kind of luck we've been having and collapses. The problem is once they get there. I would be ecstatic except for the reality that one, and possibly two of our top offensive threats will be out, Daniel and Kesler. And our best defensive force in Tanev will still be recovering from the broken hand. Not to mention our goalie has only a few months NHL #1 experience with a backup that is "not ready". The Kings team that squeaked in was healthy. I'd still enjoy watching their gallant effort if the miracle happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 see that's what i don't understand cause lets assume we win the next 5 games going 5-0 our record 77 gp and 84 points and at the same time PHX goes 3-5 losing the 5 against, nyr, njd, bos, fla, pit record 77 gp and 83 points DAL goes 4-5 losing against losing against, PHI, OTT, WSH, CAR, TAMPA record 77 gp and 83 points doesn't this mean we're in the race? It's unlikely because the chances of winning 5 in a row is 3.125%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I don't want them to lose on purpose but to think that they can squeak into the playoffs AND do damage like LA is not likely at all. That LA team was STACKED, I really thought they would be contenders the Presidents trophy at the start of that season, we just don't have the right pieces right now to make a deep run. This team is in 2nd last place in the entire league goals/games, we only win games where Lack posts a shutout or doesn't allow more than 1 goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckseeesh Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 ok then let's not even say 5 "in a row". lets say out of the remaining 10 games we win AT LEAST 5 and the teams i mentioned go 3-5, 4-5 respectively. now we're in a position where we have 5 games, alongside phx and dallas to make a run for the playoffs. But my point in this thread isn't to say that we're guaranteed a spot in the playoffs or even that we will make it, but instead that as fans we should always root for this team to succeed. cause honestly while a high spot in the draft is nice, it all comes down to scouting and how well we can draft players. they're just numbers and projections. furthermore for everyone asking for a rebuild well have a look at our roster assuming we do a rebuld... Sedin(lock) - Sedin(lock) - vacant (vacant) - Kesler(lock/trade) - vacant Kassian(lock) - vacant - vacant vacant - Richardson/Dalpe/Santo - vacant Hamhuis(lock) - Bieksa(lock) Edler(lock/trade) - Garrison(lock) Tanev(lock) - vacant Lack/UFA Markstrom/UFA/Lack for all those vacant spots we already have so many players in minors that can fill in for defense, Corrado, Sauve, Stanton, as for the 7 open forward spots we have Horvat, Gaunce, Jensen, Shinkaruk, Schroeder, Lain, Archibald, Fox. So as you can we can fill our lineup with rookies next year if we wanted but the thing is... obviously we need veteran presence and we'll be making UFA signings therefore we can expect only 3-4 openings for a forward position, 1-2 spots for the d and yeah. the goal shouldn't be to tank just so we get a high pick but instead 1. Try and make playoffs 2. Scout well so our position in draft won't matter too much 3. If possible trade assets such as Kesler and or Edler for a good package of prospect/pick/player cause honestly, at best even if we tanked we could probably get a projected top 3-6 forward or top 4 dman but do we need that? yes it would help but i don't mind our future top line or dpairing being something along the lines of Shinkaruk - Horvat - Jensen Tanev-Corrado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 OP If we lose ONCE in regulation we can't mathematically make the playoffs hence the tanking movement and gloom. Can this team go perfect for the rest of this season? It's possible. Unicorns are also possible. So are aliens.OOps, very bad math surfer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompers14 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 We're 3 points, a game and 1/2, behind 8th place with 20 games to go. Your math ain't good! I predict we need 23 points in our last 20 games to have a fair shot (finish 97 points). If we can get more than 23 our chances become very good. We have a beneficial schedule for us; our competitors games in hand and better health. All up odd's are fair. 10 games left with 20pts on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
people please Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Okay no. The LA team that went on to win the cup was a team that should of won the Presidents Trophy and just couldn't score and they then acquired Carter and had a coaching change which got the "lazy" stars performing at their highest level. This Canucks team is no where near as skilled as the LA team was/is. "And they than got Carter" eh, so we just got Jensen but ran out of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 see that's what i don't understand cause lets assume we win the next 5 games going 5-0our record 77 gp and 84 pointsand at the same time PHX goes 3-5 losing the 5 against, nyr, njd, bos, fla, pitrecord 77 gp and 83 pointsDAL goes 4-5 losing against losing against, PHI, OTT, WSH, CAR, TAMPArecord 77 gp and 83 pointsdoesn't this mean we're in the race?When they say things like the Canucks need to go 11-0 or 13-1 to make the playoffs.....that means they predict what the teams ahead will do. What they do is predict the teams ahead, will earn the same points per game as they have so far in the season. Basically if Dallas or Phoenix play the same as they have all season. But yeah with so much time left lots is technically possible, Dallas and Phoenix could lose all the games (do they play each other?) then the Canucks could make it in and still lose a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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