J529 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/windows/end-support-help What is Windows XP end of support? Microsoft has provided support for Windows XP for the past 12 years. But now the time has come for us, along with our hardware and software partners, to invest our resources toward supporting more recent technologies so that we can continue to deliver great new experiences. As a result, after April 8, 2014, technical assistance for Windows XP will no longer be available, including automatic updates that help protect your PC. Microsoft will also stop providing Microsoft Security Essentials for download on Windows XP on this date. (If you already have Microsoft Security Essentials installed, you will continue to receive antimalware signature updates for a limited time, but this does not mean that your PC will be secure because Microsoft will no longer be providing security updates to help protect your PC.) If you continue to use Windows XP after support ends, your computer will still work but it might become more vulnerable to security risks and viruses. Also, as more software and hardware manufacturers continue to optimize for more recent versions of Windows, you can expect to encounter greater numbers of apps and devices that do not work with Windows XP. What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported? Which version of Windows am I running? How do I stay protected? To stay protected after support ends, you have two options: Upgrade your current PC Very few older computers will be able to run Windows 8.1, which is the latest version of Windows. We recommend that you download and run the Windows Upgrade Assistant to check if your PC meets the system requirements for Windows 8.1 and then follow the steps in the tutorial to upgrade if your PC is able. For more detailed information, read the FAQ. Download and run the Windows Upgrade Assistant Tutorial: Upgrade to Windows 8.1 from Windows XP Get a new PC If your current PC can't run Windows 8.1, it might be time to consider shopping for a new one. Be sure to explore our great selection of new PCs. They're more powerful, lightweight, and stylish than ever before—and with an average price that's considerably less expensive than the average PC was 10 years ago. Find your perfect PC How do I move all my Windows XP stuff to a new PC? You can move your Windows XP stuff with Laplink, a free data migration solution that will walk you through all the steps to getting your files, setings, and user profiles from your Windows XP PC to your new Windows laptop, desktop, or tablet. (Note that you will need your Windows XP PC to migrate your data, and you can only migrate to a PC running Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1.) Learn more What do I get with Windows 8.1? Windows 8.1 makes it easy to do all the things you're used to doing with Windows XP while opening up a whole new world of possibilities for you to explore and enjoy. Find out about all the exciting things you can do with the new Windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 http://amirunningxp.com/ lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 So...does this mean I will have to install Linux on my wife's little Netbook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Luckily I'm on OSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/tech-news/windows-xp-is-going-away-heres-why-you-need-an-upgrade/article17522351/ If you’re still running Windows XP, and you use the Internet, it’s time to upgrade your operating system (OS). In just a few weeks, on April 8, 2014, Microsoft will stop providing any updates or support for XP. XP users are a big group; almost 30 per cent of computers still run Windows XP, according to NetMarketShare.com, scary considering it’s a 12 year old operating system in an industry that moves as fast as tech. That’s the second-largest share, after Windows 7, of any operating system. Windows 8 comes in third, at just over 10.5 per cent. “So what,” you say? For starters, if any sort of bug pops up, you’re on your own. Your computer will no longer get security updates or patches from Microsoft, and if the operating system decides not to work at all, too bad. Furthermore, new versions of application software and new games likely won’t run on XP, and peripherals won’t have XP drivers, so forget about that new printer. More importantly, it also means your computer will have a big, fat target painted on it. Hackers know a good thing when they see it – and from their point of view, an unsupported operating system is wonderful. When XP Service Pack 1 went out of support (the about-to-be retired version is Service Pack 3), Microsoft saw an increase in attacks on systems running it within 24 hours. Crooks aren’t stupid; they’ve been saving exploits so they could hit the unsupported masses and steal their personal information or use the compromised machines to attack others. Things can get ugly, fast. Who is still running XP? In one nerve-making example, the Canadian Border Services Agency’s NEXUS kiosks (due for replacement this summer) are tottering along on XP, although the CBSA has negotiated extended support from Microsoft for those systems and, spokesman Luc Nadon said in an e-mail, has also introduced other protective measures to tide it over until the new kiosks are installed. Many businesses – large and small – haven’t upgraded. They may have legacy software that doesn’t run on newer OSes, or they may not have the time or resources available to do the work, or they just may not think of it as a big deal (it is). Large corporations can contract for extended support (which likely won’t be cheap) if they can’t complete their migration from XP by support termination date. Consumers and small business, however, don’t have that option. Their choices are upgrade, or accept the risks. Windows XP has had a great run. When it was introduced in October of 2001, it pulled together the worlds of Windows 95/Windows Me and Windows 2000/Windows NT. Although eyebrows were raised over the colourful, almost cartoon-like icons at first, users quickly grew attached to the OS. It ran most of their older software, and worked with most current devices, which made businesses happy, and it provided an easy upgrade that ran modern software, including the latest games, for consumers. Then Windows Vista came along (not Microsoft’s most shining hour; Vista today has a mere 3 per cent share according to NetMarketShare.com). It was slow, and unstable, and people refused to upgrade in droves. By the time the issues were rectified, it was too late; the company capitulated, and extended XP support. We’re not in that position now. We have viable choices. Windows 7 is probably the most solid operating system Microsoft ever produced, and it will receive security updates until 2020 (mainstream support, including non-security related bug fixes, ends next January). Windows 8.1’s mainstream support doesn’t end until January of 2018, and it has extended support until 2023, so it’s probably the better choice for consumers. So, if you’re a consumer running XP the obvious next question is, can I even download and run Windows 8? Microsoft offers tools to help you figure out whether or not you can upgrade. If not, you’ll find that new machines can be had for not a lot of money, there’s even a free tool available to migrate all of your files, settings, and user profiles to the new machine. But what about your third-party software? You can run the free Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant, which evaluates everything installed on the machine and tells you what is compatible and what isn’t, and whether there are updates available for each incompatible item. There’s a similar Upgrade Advisor for Windows 7. XP has served us well. Don’t turn that love into hate by clinging to it past its best-before date and ending up getting hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 30% of computers still run XP. That's quite significant. Pretty dumb to discontinue support and updates. I find it way more user friendly, especially for anyone who isn't too computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAntar Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 30% of computers still run XP. That's quite significant. Pretty dumb to discontinue support and updates. I find it way more user friendly, especially for anyone who isn't too computer illiterate. It's not really "dumb" ... It costs them $$ and presumably this not only eliminates cost on their end, but also encourages new windows purchases. 12 years is a pretty long time to offer free support on something, regardless of the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 So...does this mean I will have to install Linux on my wife's little Netbook? Looks like it - just ran the "Win 8 Upgrade Assistant": Your processor doesn't have NX turned on or might not support NX. Enable NX in BIOS Security settings: Your CPU might support NX but it might not had been enabled in BIOS settings. You need to look for “No execute bit” or equivalent XD (“Execute Disable bit”) in security settings and enable the same, save the changes and restart your PC. Wife's Netbook: Single-core Netbook processors[edit] "Diamondville" (45 nm)[edit] All models support: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology (EIST), XD bit (an NX bit implementation), hyper-threading These models do not support Intel 64, Intel VT-x, or SSE4. Transistors: 47 million Die size: 26 mm² Package size: 22 mm × 22 mm Steppings: C0 Model number sSpec number Frequency L2 cache FSB Mult. Voltage TDP Socket Release date Part number(s) Release price (USD) Atom N270 SLB73 (C0) 1.6 GHz 512 KB 533 MT/s 12× 0.9–1.1625 V 2.5 W BGA 437 June 3, 2008 AU80586GE025D $44 I wonder if the XD bit will be sufficient... Edit: Searched some more and some people have had success installing it on N270 Netbooks...but need a USB DVD drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Gaunce Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 sad even though i don't have xp anymore, just feels like time is flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 No updates? Sounds like a bonus lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 30% of computers still run XP. That's quite significant. Pretty dumb to discontinue support and updates. I find it way more user friendly, especially for anyone who isn't too computer illiterate. Actually; I find window 8 and windows 8.1 more user friendly for computer illiterates. Especially touch screens like tablets and touch screen laptops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 So windows will stop sabotaging XP and will now move onto sabotaging Vista and 7.0. Seriously. Don't windows update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Actually; I find window 8 and windows 8.1 more user friendly for computer illiterates. Especially touch screens like tablets and touch screen laptops. Guess i'm old school. Curious. How many on here still run XP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Guess i'm old school. Curious. How many on here still run XP? I run it on 3 machines, wife for some reason wanted Vista on her desktop years ago. I suppose I'll keep XP on the laptop even though I have a Windows 7 installer on a separate drive (I used the secondary XP install that was offered to me -- why not), but the desktops are almost at the end of their lives some 7 years (and numerous upgrades/replacements) later. Problem with XP is the 64-bit version sucks huge, and the 32-bit OS is very limiting when you factor the type of resources games use now. Not many people would be dumb enough to build a system that has 16-32GB of RAM and waste 90-something percent of it. And it makes no sense to get modern hardware like an SSD, DX11 video card, etc. and bottleneck yourself with a Microsoft 32-bit OS that can't take advantage of it properly enough. If all one uses the computer for is browsing, listening to music, or watching videos, don't even bother with Windows XP, just get a generic/full install of Ubuntu or Kubuntu. Much better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNucksFan Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Windows 7 is by far the best OS Microsoft has put out. XP is a close 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Windows 7 is by far the best OS Microsoft has put out. XP is a close 2nd. You know what's funny is people said that about XP when Microsoft went through this process with 98 and 2k (2000). But yeah, we're gonna do Win 7 Pro or Ultimate with our new machines -- this end point for the OS should happen at the soonest around 2020. I had thought of Windows 8.1 but trying it out on a coworker's computer, and I said fuck this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Windows 8 is fine once you ditch their tacked-on user friendly junk. Doesn't have to be a tablet-only OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 So windows will stop sabotaging XP and will now move onto sabotaging Vista and 7.0. Seriously. Don't windows update. Why would they bother sabotaging Vista?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Windows 8 is fine once you ditch their tacked-on user friendly junk. Doesn't have to be a tablet-only OS. http://www.classicshell.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Well, that settles that...it will cost me about $170 to upgrade the wife's netbook - yet I can buy a new netbook which is faster with Win 8.1 preloaded for $300. No point in upgrading the OS on her old netbook - not worth it IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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