Piggy Bank Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 First and foremost, the most common answer will be no. But do really think about the Pro's and Con's. Pro's -Entering Peak. -Has never had a down season compared to before. -Only makes 5.5 Million through 2018. -Number one Center for the next 10+ years. -Helps intrigue many, free agents (Moulson, possibly Vanek). -Only 23...... -Would have a team that is willing to spend on him. -80 points shy of Kesler's stats. Kesler is 6 yrs older. Kesler has played 2x games. -Jt makes others better. etc Con's -Give up a lot. (But we are rebuilding aren't we.) -Coming off injury. -Need to have atleast one good winger signing for him right away. (He doesnt want to play with Bur.) -Probably lose Kesler & Horvat. (Bo is a stud, but won't be close. 80 points shy of Kes. 6 yrs younger) I would give, Kesler, one of our top four 4+ million dollar D, 1st round pick as always, and a prospect (Gaunce. if bo 1st becomes 2nd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl's Jn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 we need him.. pure goal scorer.. go all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 What the Canucks would consider fair, and the Islanders consider fair are two different things. If Tavares is up for grabs someone will overpay. And we don't have enough to trade with. Unless we're giving up 5-7 years of first round picks. I'd rather trade assets and stockpile picks for 2015 so we can make a serious run at drafting McDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsPajamas Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 First and foremost, the most common answer will be no. But do really think about the Pro's and Con's. Pro's -Entering Peak. -Has never had a down season compared to before. -Only makes 5.5 Million through 2018. -Number one Center for the next 10+ years. -Helps intrigue many, free agents (Moulson, possibly Vanek). -Only 23...... -Would have a team that is willing to spend on him. -80 points shy of Kesler's stats. Kesler is 6 yrs older. Kesler has played 2x games. -Jt makes others better. etc Con's -Give up a lot. (But we are rebuilding aren't we.) -Coming off injury. -Need to have atleast one good winger signing for him right away. (He doesnt want to play with Bur.) -Probably lose Kesler & Horvat. (Bo is a stud, but won't be close. 80 points shy of Kes. 6 yrs younger) I would give, Kesler, Edler, 1st round pick as always, and a prospect (Gaunce. if bo 1st becomes 2nd) Kesler would totally waive to go to a Tavaresless NYI, and Edler would waive to go anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl's Jn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 First and foremost, the most common answer will be no. But do really think about the Pro's and Con's. Pro's -Entering Peak. -Has never had a down season compared to before. -Only makes 5.5 Million through 2018. -Number one Center for the next 10+ years. -Helps intrigue many, free agents (Moulson, possibly Vanek). -Only 23...... -Would have a team that is willing to spend on him. -80 points shy of Kesler's stats. Kesler is 6 yrs older. Kesler has played 2x games. -Jt makes others better. etc Con's -Give up a lot. (But we are rebuilding aren't we.) -Coming off injury. -Need to have atleast one good winger signing for him right away. (He doesnt want to play with Bur.) -Probably lose Kesler & Horvat. (Bo is a stud, but won't be close. 80 points shy of Kes. 6 yrs younger) I would give, Kesler, Edler, 1st round pick as always, and a prospect (Gaunce. if bo 1st becomes 2nd) we get him we get moulson guaranteed!. i would try and snag grabner out of their as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Well obviously you can't not kick the tires on a player like JT but the price is going to be too high I think. Unless Snow pulls another Vanek deal and gets robbed blind by MG. In which case all of MG's past offenses would be water under the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Why doesn't he want to play with Burr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAntar Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 http://forum.canucks.com/topic/211587-burrows-do-we-really-need-him/?view=getnewpost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 yeah, why wouldn't he play with burr? him and moulson are pretty similar players really. we dont have a package to send for tavares though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I would go all in. Kesler would not be part of the deal. I mean the Isles can't even win when JT is healthy why would they trade him and make someone like Kesler part of the return just so he can leave in a couple years? If JT goes they are bringing back a boatload of prospects. Get ready to give up something like Horvat, Jensen, Shink, and 1st. But hell I'd still do it. Kesler plays on his wing, sing another winger, Sedins and Burrows on line 2. *starts foaming at the mouth* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck or Die Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 No. What it would take to get him wouldn't be worth it. It would kill our depth. Then wed have to start all over again in building up our assets, which we already have little of. Tavares is a good player to have when you are a contender. But he won't put this team on his back and carry them to the promised land if we are bottom-feeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Kesler, Edler, Garrison, and a 2nd? Just off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimerez Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Everyone will be drooling to get him, and that extremely friendly cap hit. If someone does trade for him, I see a TOR-BOS Kessel - esque + trade happening. No way we could afford him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I would go all in. Kesler would not be part of the deal. I mean the Isles can't even win when JT is healthy why would they trade him and make someone like Kesler part of the return just so he can leave in a couple years? If JT goes they are bringing back a boatload of prospects. Get ready to give up something like Horvat, Jensen, Shink, and 1st. But hell I'd still do it. Kesler plays on his wing, sing another winger, Sedins and Burrows on line 2. *starts foaming at the mouth* Because they need more prospects? Never mind we don't have the quality of prospects to offer that would make that interesting enough to land Tavares without a significant roster player in return. And never mind again that it'd be assuming Tavares wants to waive to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Instead of giving up all these assets to get Tavares. Why dont we just do what they did to get him in the first place? Super tank to get one of Mc David /Eichel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 No. What it would take to get him wouldn't be worth it. It would kill our depth. Then wed have to start all over again in building up our assets, which we already have little of. Tavares is a good player to have when you are a contender. But he won't put this team on his back and carry them to the promised land if we are bottom-feeders. It's entirely possible they'd be asking too much for him, but I actually disagree re: he isn't a player that can carry a bad team on his back. He was in Hart trophy contention last season, and before injury this season, on pace for 90+pts without Moulson with whom he had chemistry. And the Islanders aren't exactly a powerhouse... But yeah, in the end our 'top' players are mostly under NTCs and such so it's highly unlikely we'd be able to assemble what the Islanders would want, even if it were reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Kesler, Burrows, 1st, Bo. And I would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 But yeah, in the end our 'top' players are mostly under NTCs and such so it's highly unlikely we'd be able to assemble what the Islanders would want, even if it were reasonable. true. none of the boys would waive their ntc to go to the isles. just not gonna happen. i really don't think management has the assets to land JT because they'd most likely want an nhl ready, proven, scorer+prospects in return. i'd be one of the few who'd rather pass on JT and focus more on our own prospect pool. a JT deal would look like a team going "all in" willing to trade everything to restart a rebuild and build a team around him, which is what the isles were doing in the first place. i'd rather go after okposo, but if JT really wants out, maybe the isles won't have that much leverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanucklehead10 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 @Florence I beg to differ. Jt's Islander's made the playoffs last year because he put the team on his back....some questionable moves by Snow singlehandedly demolished a slowing growing team. Major facepalm to snow* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck or Die Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 @Florence I beg to differ. Jt's Islander's made the playoffs last year because he put the team on his back....some questionable moves by Snow singlehandedly demolished a slowing growing team. Major facepalm to snow*The made the playoffs last year for the same reason the leafs did. It was a shortened season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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