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25 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

He seems to be prolonging his usual hot start this year, so perhaps they can sell high.

Exactly what I was thinking/hoping. He's actually got pretty good numbers this year.....

 

I wonder if the Indians need a replacement for Naylor?

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I wouldn't move Grichuk if this team is actually trying to win... I guess if they want to write the season off then I guess they can move Grichuk, but I don't think that's what they're planning for.

 

I watched some game highlights from a few games ago, and what surprised me the most besides the solid lock at 3/4 Vladdy/Teo just solid combo those two, but Anthony Kay his outing against the Orioles last game was very impressive imo. I was shocked to find out this was the same Kay I knew from previous years as a one of their relievers, his stuff was on fire, throwing 97 he was pitching like an ace would be pitching, something special there if he can keep that up, definitely promising.

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Anyone voting for the MLB All-Star starters? 
 

The Jays could very well have 4 representatives as starters, with Guerrero (pretty much a lock), Semien (leds at his position, but barely), Bichette (2nd in voting, long shot), and Hernandez (9th in voting, long shot, but Trout and Buxton are injured.)

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15 hours ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

I wouldn't move Grichuk if this team is actually trying to win... I guess if they want to write the season off then I guess they can move Grichuk, but I don't think that's what they're planning for.

 

I watched some game highlights from a few games ago, and what surprised me the most besides the solid lock at 3/4 Vladdy/Teo just solid combo those two, but Anthony Kay his outing against the Orioles last game was very impressive imo. I was shocked to find out this was the same Kay I knew from previous years as a one of their relievers, his stuff was on fire, throwing 97 he was pitching like an ace would be pitching, something special there if he can keep that up, definitely promising.

 

I disagree that it would be "writing the season off"....

 

As it sits right now, the Jays have more outfielders than they need. Springer (if he stays healthy) is a lock at CF and you have Teo, Gurriel and Dickerson when he gets back all looking for playing time at two outfield positions.....

 

You also have Biggio and Davis in the wings, in case something happens with the top four guys.

 

Meanwhile, Buck and Tabby were quoting a stat yesterday, where the Jays lead baseball in run differential in innings 1-5....but drop to -19 in innings 6-9. The bullpen has cost them several wins this season and in most of those losses that I watched, simply having a guy who could throw strikes would have made the difference.

 

I would absolutely move Grichuk for bullpen help, and IMHO, it would be move that would help the team win.....

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5 hours ago, shiznak said:

Anyone voting for the MLB All-Star starters? 
 

The Jays could very well have 4 representatives as starters, with Guerrero (pretty much a lock), Semien (leds at his position, but barely), Bichette (2nd in voting, long shot), and Hernandez (9th in voting, long shot, but Trout and Buxton are injured.)

The new format has me a bit confused, TBH....

 

Right now they're voting for the starters, correct? It doesn't mean that Biggio couldn't be named as a non-starter at SS, right?

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

The new format has me a bit confused, TBH....

 

Right now they're voting for the starters, correct? It doesn't mean that Biggio couldn't be named as a non-starter at SS, right?

Fans only vote for the starters. Reserves are voted on by a combination of votes from a player’s ballot and coaches…….I think. 
 

So, technically Biggio can still get in if he was voted on by his peers.

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1 minute ago, shiznak said:

Fans only vote for the starters. Reserves are voted on by a combination of votes from a player’s ballot and coaches…….I think. 
 

So, technically Biggio can still get in if he was voted on by his peers.

:lol: I just realized that I mistyped. I don't think Biggio has much of a chance, but Bichette should have....

 

In my defense, I was on my first coffee when I typed that.....:picard:

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6 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

 

I disagree that it would be "writing the season off"....

 

As it sits right now, the Jays have more outfielders than they need. Springer (if he stays healthy) is a lock at CF and you have Teo, Gurriel and Dickerson when he gets back all looking for playing time at two outfield positions.....

 

You also have Biggio and Davis in the wings, in case something happens with the top four guys.

 

Meanwhile, Buck and Tabby were quoting a stat yesterday, where the Jays lead baseball in run differential in innings 1-5....but drop to -19 in innings 6-9. The bullpen has cost them several wins this season and in most of those losses that I watched, simply having a guy who could throw strikes would have made the difference.

 

I would absolutely move Grichuk for bullpen help, and IMHO, it would be move that would help the team win.....

I'm not saying they don't need bullpen help heck I've been saying they need help it seems like since Halladay days, this imo has always been the Jays weak spot, they don't even have a true ace right now imo, let alone relievers who are strong enough, when they brought back Dolis I knew it was bad. I wasn't a huge fan of the Springer signing this off season I'm pretty sure I said he better become some angels in the outfield type player because his bat isn't worth that much, and pitching is what this team needed to address in the off season but it seems to be aquire more outfield and bats for the lineup when that wasn't needed. 

 

Regarding Dickerson reading an article from Miami 7 days ago don't expect him anytime soon, he has a boot on that he needs to be kept on for 3 weeks, so 2 more weeks then they can determine if he can start recovery or if it needs more time with the boot, so who really knows how long it will be with him it didn't sound good coming out from Miami. This is why you can't move Grichuk, and why would you want to move a bat that's been pretty productive in your bottom 4, you want that depth especially for playoffs, removing that from your lineup and hoping you'll find that in other players is to big of a gamble if your playing to win. If I was the Jays I would move prospects, picks, Jensen :lol:, Dolis in a package to upgrade, but I would move Gurriel Jr his 0.3 War is bad compared to Grichuk 1.0 War. Biggio I saw in the game highlights a few games ago almost reminded me of Fisher out there in RF, I wouldn't rely on him for the outfield imo, he should stay in the infield and to why I believe they moved Panik for this.

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3 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

I'm not saying they don't need bullpen help heck I've been saying they need help it seems like since Halladay days, this imo has always been the Jays weak spot, they don't even have a true ace right now imo, let alone relievers who are strong enough, when they brought back Dolis I knew it was bad. I wasn't a huge fan of the Springer signing this off season I'm pretty sure I said he better become some angels in the outfield type player because his bat isn't worth that much, and pitching is what this team needed to address in the off season but it seems to be aquire more outfield and bats for the lineup when that wasn't needed. 

 

Regarding Dickerson reading an article from Miami 7 days ago don't expect him anytime soon, he has a boot on that he needs to be kept on for 3 weeks, so 2 more weeks then they can determine if he can start recovery or if it needs more time with the boot, so who really knows how long it will be with him it didn't sound good coming out from Miami. This is why you can't move Grichuk, and why would you want to move a bat that's been pretty productive in your bottom 4, you want that depth especially for playoffs, removing that from your lineup and hoping you'll find that in other players is to big of a gamble if your playing to win. If I was the Jays I would move prospects, picks, Jensen :lol:, Dolis in a package to upgrade, but I would move Gurriel Jr his 0.3 War is bad compared to Grichuk 1.0 War. Biggio I saw in the game highlights a few games ago almost reminded me of Fisher out there in RF, I wouldn't rely on him for the outfield imo, he should stay in the infield and to why I believe they moved Panik for this.

Disagree. We have Biggio as well and Davis if things really go sideways....If the right deal for Grichuk came about, there's no way I'd hang onto him in case someone else gets hurt.

 

He's having a productive season....possibly his best. That's exactly the time to move a guy who makes 10 million per and doesn't have a regular spot.

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2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Disagree. We have Biggio as well and Davis if things really go sideways....If the right deal for Grichuk came about, there's no way I'd hang onto him in case someone else gets hurt.

 

He's having a productive season....possibly his best. That's exactly the time to move a guy who makes 10 million per and doesn't have a regular spot.

If you're writing off your season and going for a rebuild then yes you do which normally happens, but not when you're playing to win and be competitive to go deep for hopefully a World Series.... 

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12 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

If you're writing off your season and going for a rebuild then yes you do which normally happens, but not when you're playing to win and be competitive to go deep for hopefully a World Series.... 

Again, I disagree. IMO "writing off the season" is carrying on with the bullpen they have right now.

 

If you want to acquire quality, you have to give up quality. Grichuk is a quality player that they can afford to lose. If you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it.

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16 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Again, I disagree. IMO "writing off the season" is carrying on with the bullpen they have right now.

 

If you want to acquire quality, you have to give up quality. Grichuk is a quality player that they can afford to lose. If you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it.

I brought up my idea and what I believe they should do instead to you.... Removing a good bat and not replacing it when there's a weaker one to move out first is not the right decision. 

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9 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

I brought up my idea and what I believe they should do instead to you.... Removing a good bat and not replacing it when there's a weaker one to move out first is not the right decision. 

I suppose would could afford to move prospects, but unless we dealt some highly touted players, I still don't see how we get much value in return.

 

That aside, the question of moving Gurriel instead of Grichuk is a valid one. Personally, I think Gurriel has yet to reach his ceiling, while I believe we are seeing Grichuk's right now. Grich is the better outfielder all around, but an arm like Gurriel's doesn't come along very often.

 

If it were up to me, I would keep Lourdes, but there is an argument to made for keeping Grichuk instead. We can agree to disagree on that.

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41 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

I brought up my idea and what I believe they should do instead to you.... Removing a good bat and not replacing it when there's a weaker one to move out first is not the right decision. 

Offence is definitely not the problem this season, and that’s without Springer in the lineup (far, far superior bat to Grichuk). If they want to compete they absolutely need to upgrade the bullpen in a hurry. Like yesterday. 

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9 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

here the Jays lead baseball in run differential in innings 1-5....but drop to -19 in innings 6-9.

Anyone have a team era per inning list?

Or I suppose a runs scored per inning list would do.

 

Just wondering if the Jays scoring drops and the bullpen era ballons or if it is solely a bullpen issue.

 

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Anyone been following the Trevor Bauer allegations? Seems like if he isn't in significant legal/criminal jeopardy his reputation is shot. Reads a lot like the Jian Ghomeshi stuff from 5-6 years ago.

 

Disturbing details emerge in Trevor Bauer assault allegations

Warning: The following article contains graphic allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault.

 

One day after news broke that Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer had been accused of assault, details of his accuser's account of their interactions has surfaced.

A domestic violence restraining order filed against Bauer and executed on Monday was obtained by The Athletic's Brittany Ghiroli and Katie Strang. The 67-page document reportedly contains detailed descriptions of two sexual encounters the woman says turned violent, with accompanying graphic images of injuries to her head and body.

 

The alleged victim was granted a temporary domestic violence restraining order in Los Angeles on Tuesday, with police still investigating the case. MLB said it became aware of the allegations on Tuesday and would look into them.

What Trevor Bauer is accused of doing

In the document obtained by The Athletic, the woman reportedly claims she met Bauer through Instagram, then drove from San Diego to Los Angeles to meet him on April 21. The pair reportedly had sex she described as initially consensual, with Bauer asking her if she had ever been choked. She reportedly said yes, at which point she says Bauer put his hands around her neck and applied light pressure.

 

The woman reportedly alleges Bauer then put his fingers down her throat, at which point she asked him to stop. Bauer reportedly did, but then she says he wrapped her hair around her neck and choked her unconsciousness without asking for consent.

 

She says she woke up face down on the bed to Bauer having anal sex with her, something she reportedly never consented to. The woman said she was bleeding from her anus and barely able to walk after, but did not think he was a threat to do anything against her will for the remainder of the night.

 

The woman claims she told Bauer she didn't enjoy him having anal sex with her the following morning, something she said he seemed to understand.

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - JUNE 12: Trevor Bauer #27 of the Los Angeles Dodgers looks on after giving up a hit to Joey Gallo #13 of the Texas Rangers during the fifth inning at Dodger Stadium on June 12, 2021 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Katelyn Mulcahy/Getty Images)
 
A woman says she had two sexual encounters with Trevor Bauer, with both resulting in violence to which she did not consent. (Photo by Katelyn Mulcahy/Getty Images)

Bauer allegedly invited the woman to his house again on May 15 and asked her to agree on a safe word. Five minutes into sex, she claims he started choking her again to the point of unconsciousness. When she awoke, she says Bauer was punching her head several times, with blows to her left jaw, left side of her head and both cheekbones. After punching her, she says he flipped her onto her stomach and choked her again to unconsciousness.

 

The woman says she started crying and shaking violently when she woke up with pain behind both her ears, to which Bauer allegedly reacted by repeatedly saying “You’re safe. I’m here. You’re safe.” He then allegedly scratched her back and whispered to her “I would never do those things to you if it wasn’t sexually.”

 

To back up her account, the woman reportedly provided multiple pictures to the court showing her face visibly bruised with two black eyes, a bloodied lip and scratches to the side of her face. She has also reportedly provided text messages and voicemails from Bauer afterward to the court.

 

The woman reportedly underwent two medical evaluations following her second encounter with Bauer, including a trip to the emergency room a day after the second encounter where she underwent rapid CT scans of her brain, face and neck. She said her medical notes indicated “significant head and facial trauma” with signs of a basilar skull fracture.

Pasadena police investigating Bauer

After giving an account of her time with Bauer to an emergency room psychiatrist and doctor, the woman reportedly met with multiple detectives with the San Diego Police Department. She says she initially downplayed the incident as "rough sex" and didn't provide Bauer's name due to fear of potential repercussions.

From The Athletic:

“I was afraid what Trevor would do if he found out,” the woman said in her account. “I remain afraid that Trevor will find me and hurt me for going to the hospital.”

The Pasadena Police Department reportedly directed the woman to text Bauer, who was allegedly texting the woman "nonstop" asking about her well-being, and ask to speak over the phone. As the police recorded the call, she reportedly asked him "What did you do to me when I was unconscious?" Bauer allegedly admitted to repeatedly punching her in the buttocks, but changed the subject when she told him she did not consent to that.

 

A Pasadena police officer confirmed to The Athletic that the matter is still under active investigation, but the woman said in her account that she was concerned about the pace of the investigation:

“I am deeply concerned that no arrest has been made or charges filed,” she said in the document.

“One of the last text messages I sent him was, ‘I appreciate all of your offers to help, but the best way you can help me is to never do that to anyone else ever again.’ To this, Trevor responded, ‘I would never do anything to hurt anyone. That includes you.’”

Bauer's side of the story

Minutes after posting an initial report on the allegations against Bauer, a statement from Bauer's agent Jon Fetterolf was sent to Yahoo Sports addressing the allegations. Here is the full statement, in which it is conceded Bauer had rough sex with the woman, but claimed that it was all consensual.

 

The statement initially included the last name of the alleged victim, which was included in her filing with the Los Angeles Superior Court, but Yahoo Sports has chosen to withhold her name:

Mr. Bauer had a brief and wholly consensual sexual relationship initiated by [the alleged victim] beginning in April 2021. We have messages that show [the alleged victim] repeatedly asking for “rough” sexual encounters involving requests to be “choked out” and slapped in the face. In both of their encounters, [the alleged victim] drove from San Diego to Mr. Bauer’s residence in Pasadena, Calif. where she went on to dictate what she wanted from him sexually and he did what was asked. Following each of her only two meetings with Mr. Bauer, [the alleged victim] spent the night and left without incident, continuing to message Mr. Bauer with friendly and flirtatious banter. In the days following their second and final encounter, [the alleged victim] shared photos of herself and indicated that she had sought medical care for a concussion. Mr. Bauer responded with concern and confusion, and [the alleged victim] was neither angry nor accusatory.

Mr. Bauer and [the alleged victim] have not corresponded in over a month and have not seen each other in over six weeks. Her basis for filing a protection order is nonexistent, fraudulent, and deliberately omits key facts, information, and her own relevant communications. Any allegations that the pair’s encounters were not 100% consensual are baseless, defamatory, and will be refuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Marc Garelick, a lawyer representing the woman, said in his own statement that they anticipate criminal action being taken against Bauer.

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Crazy.  Both the Cubs and the Yankees scored 7 runs in their first innings but went on to lose their respective games.

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17 hours ago, Mj2345 said:

Can’t find the game on Sportsnet, is there a reason why it’s not on there?

It was on Youtube. Not sure why SNET didn't have it, unless it's some kind of contract that Youtube has for exclusive rights.

 

I found the link on MBL.com and apparently, they do a "game of the week" every week. Buck mentioned it on Tuesday night's broadcast, so I was kind of looking for it, but I didn't see much promotion other than that.

 

My monitor has better resolution than my TV, so the picture was great, but I ran into buffering issues a couple of times and had to restart the feed. There was one stretch where a Mariner hit a slow ground ball to short and the screen froze just as Bichette was getting ready to scoop it.....buy the time I had everything reset, Gurriel had just hit a homer to tie it at 6-6....

 

This will probably go into the books as another loss for the bullpen, but for my money, this loss is on the hitters. Even though they scored six runs, time and again they failed to produce when they had golden opportunities. (1 run on a Sac fly, when they had bases loaded, nobody out) In fact, they looked a lot like last year's Jays. Far too may swings at pitcher's pitches, when they were in hitter's counts...

 

Now I look and see that they're down by four in the 6th....

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

It was on Youtube.

Comentary was quite different, but a fair amount too chatty.

I liked some of the data/stats that the group provided, and they all sounded more pumped to be doing the broadcast.

Also having a traditionalist arguing with a dude that wants to go to 7 innings for all games and other "innovations" got tiring.

However I missed the silence the regular guys use to build the suspense of the pitch

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