Brad Marchand Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pears said: Maybe I have unrealistic expectations but with how good our offense is supposed to be we shouldn’t have any problems with these teams. They've scored at least 4 runs in 14 of their last 15 games before today. Every team has a bad day at the plate. Their only loss this week was because of bad pitching. Again, this team isn't perfect but a Saturday afternoon game against Detroit isn't something that's gonna raise my level of concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Brad Marchand said: They've scored at least 4 runs in 14 of their last 15 games before today. Every team has a bad day at the plate. Their only loss this week was because of bad pitching. Again, this team isn't perfect but a Saturday afternoon game against Detroit isn't something that's gonna raise my level of concern. It isn’t just this year though. This is going back to last year where failing to beat bad teams like the Nationals cost us a playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Pears said: It isn’t just this year though. This is going back to last year where failing to beat bad teams like the Nationals cost us a playoff spot. I don't necessarily disagree there, I just don't find it useful to talk about framing the team's flaws in this context because what's the answer? Play better? Acquire better players? These are things they should be trying to do no matter who they play. Kikuchi can't command his pitches, Berrios has been hanging fastballs over the plate until lately, hitters aren't chasing Gausman's splitter like they were before, Richards has been bad, Merryweather gets hit super hard because his fastball has no movement, same with Romano. Guerrero can't seem to get his launch angle up. They've been chasing bad pitches for most of the year until the last two weeks. These are problems, not losing a random game to the Tigers. Losing a random game to the Tigers is the outcome of the problem, not the problem itself. I don't want to make it sound like I'm ripping you apart or anything, I just would prefer to discuss things that are deeper than 'they lost a few games to bad teams'. That being said, it's certainly something I'd rather they not get into the habit of doing too often. Edited June 11, 2022 by Brad Marchand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 46 minutes ago, Pears said: Maybe I have unrealistic expectations but with how good our offense is supposed to be we shouldn’t have any problems with these teams. Over 162 games even a historically good team will lose dozens of times. It’s just an unfortunate truth. Some days you actually outplay them but despite all the solid contact you hit everything right at the defence. Some days it’s a bad bounce or two, some days you run into a pitcher having an unusually good day. Even a bad team is full of major league ball players who are capable of beating anybody on a given day, it just happens for them less often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, Sean Monahan said: Over 162 games even a historically good team will lose dozens of times. It’s just an unfortunate truth. Some days you actually outplay them but despite all the solid contact you hit everything right at the defence. Some days it’s a bad bounce or two, some days you run into a pitcher having an unusually good day. Even a bad team is full of major league ball players who are capable of beating anybody on a given day, it just happens for them less often. Yeah, just frustrating I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Good pitching will always beat good hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Watching Cubs at Yankees it’s 5-0 NYY on 5 solo HR’s, 2 by Judge already, it’s in Bottom 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Rizzo with a Solo HR…joins the party it’s now 6-0 NYY on 6 Solo’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I wonder if Montoya had any thought about leaving Kirk in the game yesterday, then moving Moreno to 2B (was originally an infielder), and Biggio to CF. Just to keep Kirk’s bat in the lineup. I mean, it sure would have been worth a try than leaving Zimmer in the game, who is an automatic out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, shiznak said: I wonder if Montoya had any thought I too, sometimes wonder, if Charlie has any thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 hours ago, gurn said: I too, sometimes wonder, if Charlie has any thoughts Most of the time they aren’t good ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 20 hours ago, Mj2345 said: Watching Cubs at Yankees it’s 5-0 NYY on 5 solo HR’s, 2 by Judge already, it’s in Bottom 5th Just my luck that the year I finally get to go visit Wrigley, the Cubs are back to being awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Just my luck that the year I finally get to go visit Wrigley, the Cubs are back to being awful. Who are they playing, when you are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, gurn said: Who are they playing, when you are there? Rockies. At least I'll get a Stroman bobblehead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 **I would like to retract my statement from yesterday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Rob Refsnyder with a beautiful catch in the outfield, would of been a double…Seattle is down 2-0 to Boston in the 9th.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 22 hours ago, Pears said: **I would like to retract my statement from yesterday Goes to show you how few games the Jays have played against sub 500 teams . Nearly half the number as the Astros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Goes to show you how few games the Jays have played against sub 500 teams . Nearly half the number as the Astros Yep. I keep saying we’ll make up the 8 or so games that we’re behind the Yankees once we’ve played the amount of games against sub .500 teams that they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Manoah continues to dominate-he should be at the All star game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Good game 6-0 now in the Bottom 5th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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