Canuckas Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 A bit young and exuberant, showed when he hit that double and avoided the tag by Goins. Hit a homer and act like you've been there before, certainly don't make a big 'to-do' when you hit a double. Can't blame the kid for trying to pump up his team, especially with the atmosphere in the crowds the way it was. You got to give him credit for dodging that tag though. That was a great play by him. Go Jays Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Absolutely. His sac fly score was just ridiculous. Who the heck scores on a sac fly to the 2nd basemen? Unreal. The effort was extraordinary, jawdropping levels. He is the heartbeat and the team feeds off him. ...in hockey terms, JD is the definition of a player who gives it his all on every single shift. Greatest Jays player I've ever seen play hands down. Plays like every shift (time out there) is his last. I salute him. Just incredible. People here on CDC probably won't much like the comparison, but to me, JD is the Jonathan Toews of MLB. Both immensely talented, yet never give less than everything they've got. From a personal perspective none of that was lost on me. That was amazing to see Pompey literally fly his way 180 feet and set himself up to score. Not to mention pulling out the small-ball win against tough pitching. First out of the dugout when Goins smoked the walkoff. The only legit knock against him are his many errors. Most of JD's errors are a result of him trying to make a difficult play and missing a throw. As we used to call it, the errors of enthusiasm. They count the same as the ones where a guy like Reyes has one sneak through the 5 hole, but they're vastly different animals, IMHO. Realistically, do you guys think that Price will sign a contract extension with Toronto? A few things will have to happen. As I've said earlier, the Jays will have to scrap their internal 5 year maximum contract rule. A pitcher of Price's caliber is going to command a deal of around 8 years @ around 25 million per. If Toronto refuses to budge on the 5 year term, Price will go elsewhere. That's just too much money to leave on the table. With Mark Shapiro taking over from Paul Beeston at the end of this season, we could see that obstacle cleared. The club may move ahead with a philosophy that says you make exceptions for exceptional players. (I'd see what it takes to get Donaldson locked up as well) If the contract issue can be worked out, the next thing will be a deep playoff run. If the Jays falter a bit and find themselves in a one-game playoff for the wold card and lose, it's going to be a huge disappointment, considering what they've done since the all-star break. I think that holding off the Yanks for first in the division is huge and the upcoming seven games between the teams will go a long ways towards Price possibly re-signing in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Stroman is going to be in the bullpen tomorrow! Yes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Stroman is going to be in the bullpen tomorrow! Yes!!Awesome. Now just need Travis back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horvatian One Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The team doctors would only have let him play if his knee was completely ready, but it's just something about an athlete coming back "earlier than expected" from an ACL tear that has always scared me. Has a lot to do with Derrick Rose and his injury history after the first ACL tear but nevertheless I'm sure they know what they're doing! Hoping for the best for Stro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The team doctors would only have let him play if his knee was completely ready, but it's just something about an athlete coming back "earlier than expected" from an ACL tear that has always scared me. Has a lot to do with Derrick Rose and his injury history after the first ACL tear but nevertheless I'm sure they know what they're doing! Hoping for the best for Stro!Rose came back after about a year and a half but still got injured. Every athlete heals different. Stroman put in extra work to make sure he came back. He should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Wednesday night, Stroman made his first official minor league rehab start with Toronto's Low Class A affiliate, the Lansing Lugnuts. How did it go? Let's look (via MiLB.com): Yep, that works. Stroman threw 44 of 69 pitches for strikes (64 percent) according toMLB.com's Gregor Chisholm, by the way. Stroman threw a pair of simulated games to shake off the rust prior to the rehab start. Chisholm says Stroman will throw a bullpen session Friday before making what is tentatively scheduled to be his final rehab start Monday. That start will be with the Triple-A Buffalo Bisons. Assuming everything goes well over the next five days or so, Stroman will rejoin the Blue Jays next week, manager John Gibbons told Chisholm. Where does Stroman fit onto the staff? That's the real question. Gibbons and the Jays have lots of options with the young right-hander. Let's run them down. Stroman to the rotation, Hutchison to the bullpen For many reasons, the quartet of David Price, R.A. Dickey, Mark Buehrle and Marco Estradaare locked into their rotation spots. All four have pitched very well, either all season or of late. The final rotation spot currently belongs to Drew Hutchison, who has a 4.87 ERA (81 ERA+) and a 1.41 WHIP despite a 13-2 record. He's getting wins despite not pitching all that well thanks to Toronto's juggernaut offense. When Stroman returns, the Blue Jays could simply stick him in the rotation and move Hutchison to the bullpen. It's the old "replace the worst starter" strategy, which is never a bad one. Hutchison has never pitched out of the bullpen with regularity, so that would be a new experience for him. Still, at this time of the season, the Blue Jays have to put their best foot forward, and that likely means Stroman in the rotation. Six-man rotation I'm convinced six-man rotations will be the norm within 10 years or so. Everything in baseball is trending toward using pitchers less and less, and we've seen a few teams use six-man rotations for short stretches in recent years. Eventually more teams will use it, then before you know it, everyone will use it all the time. Anyway, the Blue Jays could always insert Stroman into the rotation and not remove Hutchison or anyone else. Stroman is coming off his injury, so surely they want to take it easy on him, plus both Buehrle and Dickey are on the wrong side of 35, so the extra rest could benefit them. Heck, it could even help Price, who is a Grade A workhorse with a ton of innings on his arm. We're in September now, so rosters are expanded. It would be much easier to carry a six-man rotation since Toronto wouldn't have to play with a short bullpen or a short bench. September is definitely the time to use six-man rotations. It has to be an option for the Jays. Stroman to the bullpen Of course, the Blue Jays could simply leave their rotation as is -- it does have them in first place, after all -- and move Stroman to the bullpen. He initially broke into the big leagues as a reliever last year, so it wouldn't be new to him. That said, the team has gone through all the trouble of getting him stretched out during his rehab assignment. It seems like it would be a waste to move him back into a one or two-inning role. (I suppose Stroman could serve as a three or four-inning setup man, but relievers aren't used like that these days.) Hybrid six-man rotation This is a longshot but it is worth mentioning. Hutchison has remarkable home/road splits -- he has a 2.46 ERA in 87 2/3 inings at home this season and a 9.00 ERA (!) in 51 innings on the road -- so perhaps the solution is starting Hutchison at home and Stroman on the road. That way the Blue Jays stick to a five-man rotation, keep all their starters, and maximize their output by hiding Hutchison on the road. It sounds like a wonderful idea. Could they actually pull it off? It's easier said than done. Either way, the Blue Jays are close to getting Stroman back from his knee injury, which is incredible all by itself. He was expected to miss the entire season after pitching to a 3.65 ERA (105 ERA+) in 130 2/3 innings last year, but instead he is close to return. However they decide to use Stroman, the Blue Jays are getting a very good pitcher back, and he'll help them in a big way in some capacity down the stretch. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25288615/blue-jays-close-to-adding-a-big-weapon-in-marcus-stroman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The team doctors would only have let him play if his knee was completely ready, but it's just something about an athlete coming back "earlier than expected" from an ACL tear that has always scared me. Has a lot to do with Derrick Rose and his injury history after the first ACL tear but nevertheless I'm sure they know what they're doing! Hoping for the best for Stro! good article on his rehab and why it was so fast The harness that Stroman wears during his workouts — which many Twitter cutups have described as a sports bra — is actually a wearable sensor, the product of a company called Catapult that has cultivated a long list of sports-industry clients but has only recently begun to branch out into baseball. The device measures athletes’ movements and their attendant physiological loads to track progress and determine when to ease off the intensity. Butler’s team used the Catapult system to search for “the right amount” of stress: Too little and Stroman’s improvement would slow unnecessarily, but too much and he’d risk suffering a setback that could end any hope of a 2015 return. Because the Jays had used the same system in spring training, Butler could compare Stroman’s readings to his pre-injury baseline. But they also tried to factor in the psychological strain of Stroman’s schoolwork and separation from the Blue Jays with Polar heart-rate monitors and Omegawave sensors, which measure heart-rate variability and other indicators of overwork. “Using the Omegawave technology, we could simply figure out, do we need to provide a different type of activity to potentially give some wiggle room to allow for good training to happen today, or is he just really so stressed out that we just need to go light and figure out some other interventions?” Butler says. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-toronto-blue-jays-marcus-stroman-acl-recovery/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Go Jays but I'm looking forward to watching Adam Jones play D. One of the smoothest CF's in baseball. Reminiscent of Devo from the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Man, Bautista has had so many of those mess ups in the outfield lately. Fix it up pls, costing us runs everytime. And 2lo = magic Edited September 4, 2015 by TheRussianRocket™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I haven't watched this much baseball in 10 years, and have my bandwagon all prepped for September and October ball. It's been great watching these guys play. I'm hoping for more tight series' down the stretch so they can get familiar with playoff style games a bit more. No reason they can't smoke 10 runs a game in the postseason, it's just not very typical... at all. Wasn't Kansas the highest scoring playoff team in years last go 'round? Thought I remembered an announcer saying that a time or 2. Most of JD's errors are a result of him trying to make a difficult play and missing a throw. As we used to call it, the errors of enthusiasm. They count the same as the ones where a guy like Reyes has one sneak through the 5 hole, but they're vastly different animals, IMHO. I won't argue with how you've labelled his errors, but at the end of the day an E is and E no matter what the situation was that led to it being committed, especially if it leads to a run. 18 excited and enthusiastic errors is a bit on the high side is all I'm saying. For the record, I think if he has a September consistent with the rest of his season then he should be a shoe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Bautista has been having his share of difficulties in right field over the last couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Put Pompey RF.. Bautista to DH... Encarnacion to first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Jimenez is the only pitcher for Orioles that the Jays have trouble against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) . Edited September 4, 2015 by Down by the River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Good stretch Colabello. Almost had him. Go-Go with another excellent turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Jays been getting it done with the sac fly pretty regularly these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Change pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Well, can't be in any worse of a position now as a pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Jays always have a hard time against the Os. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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