DrChill Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Reading Gillis comments about wanting to return to the style of play of uptempo hockey. I would argue our most successful portions of the season where when we were playing more uptempo and energetic. Last night versus LA included. Edler played one of his better games this season yesterday at uptempo hockey. Torts says they changed styles when injuries happened. Funny thing to me was we went to a defensive style while we had injuries and we lost A LOT! Why not continue to play up tempo which is how they team was designed. What style do you think we should play? Considering our personnel is that style suitable? Does Torts seem willing to play that style? Does he need to be replaced? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 toets was playing that style. that is how we were designed to play. However when danny kes hank santo tanev burr go down we cant play uptempo hockey and expect to win with no offensive players. our only chance was to Nashville predator it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 toets was playing that style. that is how we were designed to play. However when danny kes hank santo tanev burr go down we cant play uptempo hockey and expect to win with no offensive players. our only chance was to Nashville predator it. Was it? Because the style we tried sure didn't work..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Was it? Because the style we tried sure didn't work..... Nothing would have worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Nothing would have worked. So you believe that nothing could of been done differently to help us get out of that funk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 So you believe that nothing could of been done differently to help us get out of that funk?at the current time no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silfverberg Snipes Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The supposed up tempo style which involves dumping and chasing is one of the main reasons the Sedins are looking absolutely terrible this year. They, much like Joe Thornton, thrive on slowing the play down to their level. If they can't do that then they struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckdontlie Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hockey is one big probability game.. sure the canucks can play fast but teams that are faster, smarter and better skilled have a greater chance of winning. Even in the Dec stretch of awesomeness, many of these were turned into 50-50 games which could've gone either way. The team had to hustle pretty hard just to keep it a 50-50 game. I think really it's goaltending that kept the Canucks afloat in Dec. Over an 82 game season can we really be surprised at where this team is at? Also I hate the "if the team is healthy" thing because given that Vancouver will always have a crappy travel schedule we almost need two teams worth of capable players in terms of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 for me the key words are "puck possession" Torts = dump and chase or dump and change which is not keeping possession of the puck at all. I hope we dump Torts, he's full of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobiedoodoo Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I don't care what style as long as they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Nothing would have worked. I beg to differ..I would venture that if AV was still the coach we would be in the playoffs right (although probably with the same result as last season).....Torts was brought in (by the owners ?) to revive the core..He did nothing of the sort..he just broke it..plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Keep Torts and play a mixture of both. I mean we don't have to commit just to one. During the playoffs, it's teams like Boston and LA that succeed. Mike Gillis has slowly turned the team into a big and fast team (Mathias, Kassian, Booth) while maintaining a portion of the skill (Sedins, Jensen, Kassian. Need a piece on D and couple in the top 6 and we are good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 for me the key words are "puck possession" Torts = dump and chase or dump and change which is not keeping possession of the puck at all. I hope we dump Torts, he's full of it! You do realize that this year when the Canucks were healthy they out-played and out-shot most of their opponents right? They just couldn't score because they need a lot more help up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I beg to differ..I would venture that if AV was still the coach we would be in the playoffs right (although probably with the same result as last season).....Torts was brought in (by the owners ?) to revive the core..He did nothing of the sort..he just broke it..plain and simple. So you think the team would fare that much better with guys like Higgins and Hansen playing on the top line or in the top6 for most of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 So you think the team would fare that much better with guys like Higgins and Hansen playing on the top line or in the top6 for most of the year? Again,it comes down to JT's style of coaching..even if we had another top 6 this season..I still predict the same predicament we are in now..He is unable to deploy his players properly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAntar Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The supposed up tempo style which involves dumping and chasing is one of the main reasons the Sedins are looking absolutely terrible this year. They, much like Joe Thornton, thrive on slowing the play down to their level. If they can't do that then they struggle. You have no idea what you're talkin about. The up tempo play they're talking about involves forwards receiving passes out of the defensive zone, NOT "chip off the glass and out". You know, the way we played when we were a good team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ya everyone wants to see high energy high risk, exciting games. but nobody wants to lose Torts plays a high energy game, but not with a focus on offense. His high energy fast game is focused on forechecking quickly, and having energy to get into position and press the players when you are playing defense. Just a reminder: those things have nothing to do with working on a transition game, which is the cornerstone of what this team used to be about. For torts, offense means you are free to do what you want - meaning he can't teach it. but no coach really can ... but what they can do is teach a transition game. Since the team (well most of them) already know a transition game that they have probably been told not to use... no wonder they are having a horrid season. Edler takes time in particular to adjust to new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stork Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Defensive hockey isn't working better if we let the Sedins do their thing and play offensive hockey fast paced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silfverberg Snipes Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know, the way we played when we were a good team... Yeah, the style that never has and never will be played under Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Why would a team play any style?My team would be set up to play a different style for every line.Play to the strength of each line.Too many times under AV i watched the third and fourth line try to play like the Sedins.Not every one can play that style and be effective. Under Torts I watched the top 2 lines try to play like the fourth line.We need a style for every line in order to have a type of line to beat teams that play different styles.Three distinctly different lines and a fourth line of apprentices.The third line needs to be the swing or versatile line that can play offensive against some teams or defensive against others.Against teams that allow time and space the Sedins will be very effective.Against other teams who play tighter you keep the Sedins for the PP and offensive starts. First line Sedin Sedin Burrows.The second line needs to be able to crash the net and be huge in the corner with good speed to apply pressure as well as defend. Candidates:Kesler,Kassian,Higgins,Santo,Mathias,Booth.Third line now is alright too Booth Richardson Kassian. That leaves Kesler Higgins and Santo on the second line.There is always the possibility of a youngster taking a job.The fourth line can carry Sestito and apprentices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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