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*Just some food for thought. In no way am I saying do this, moreso asking what you guys think of the idea.*

1.) Let's say we end up having our pick anywhere between the 7 to 10 range - would you trade it to Phoenix in exchange for Max Domi straight up?

2.) Kesler to Anaheim for Emerson Etem & OTT 1st or Etem, ANA 1st & prospect/young player?

Now you might ask what's so special behind these 2 moves and it's simple: assuming Canucks want to get younger and get rid of some of it's core, the Canucks acquire prospects who are teammates or were fellow teammates of our prospects. It would give our prospects a big advantage in terms of chemistry and previous/current chemistry among prospects = one step ahead for them and gives them more comfort to excel at a better rate and pace.

1.) Domi was selected 12th overall by Phoenix in last yeas draft, 3 spots after Horvat was selected. Max and Bo both play for the London Knights and are studs on the team. Bo is the more complete package while Domi is the more offensive minded player. He has high-end scoring talent and a knack of putting the puck in the net. Now you might say why trade a 7-10 pick for a player selected 12th overall? Well taking into account last years draft was a really deep one and one GM said Bo would've been a top 3 pick had it not been, that means Max was selected lower than he could've if it wasn't deep and assume he could've been selected 7-10 in an average draft.

Max had 34 goals and 93 points in 61 games this regular season. Clear enough he is a scorer and something the Canucks could use. Negatives about Max: he's only 5'9" (185lbs), somewhat concerning since we have Schroeder who was a similar player to Domi at the time he got drafted and another underperforming small prospect would hurt a lot. Max is also selfish at times and likes doing things on his own and tries dancing around entire teams instead of making widen open passes to teammates. Positives: has all the skill in the world, great hands, sweet passes, and a laser shot. Also isn't 'soft' for his frame and has a lot of fight and retaliates a lot when getting picked on. Fiesty would be the word. Also, he can dangle and not just dangle, but successfully execute them and score too. Something very few players can do on a consistent basis.

2.) Etem is a 29th overall selection and was former teammates with Hunter Shinkaruk on the Medicine Hat Tigers. Emerson stands 6'1" (185lbs) and his size is solid. If we assume this trade happened one or the other, we'd still have another 1st round pick in this years draft and possibly another young player in return for Kes. Should also mention if this happens, should use the pick to draft a dman as we have a lack of top end dmen prospects.

Etem scored 21 goals and 48 points in 45 games in the minor league this year and has shown small sample size play that he can produce at the NHL level making the most out of the limited ice-time and role given on a very deep Ducks team. In 67 NHL games playing 4th/3rd line minutes roughly 10 minutes per game, Etem has 10 goals and 21 points. Not too shabby playing with medicore linemates while even strength for the most part. Positives: Etem has a highly rated all-around offensive game and can do it all on the offensive. Defensively he isn't a shutdown guy but poses as a threat with his wicked shot. Comparable to Marian Hossa in that way. Not a defensive specialist by any means but has enough sense to be put on the PK and can take the puck generating a scoring chance in an instant. A very speedy skater, can make plays at top speeds which is a rare trait in most hockey players, has a very quick release and lethal shot accuracy. Negatives: needs to improve his play without the puck. It's not a real big deal but something he can brush up on. Also should try filling his physique for his max potential by bulking up and filling in to his 6'1" frame.

Potential prospect pool with current/former teammates:

bold = have chemistry with each other

Domi - Horvat - Kassian

Shinkaruk - Etem - Jensen

Fox - Gaunce - Zalewski

Cassels - Subban

(^although one's a forward another's a dman, still play on same team and have chemistry)

Now that would be special. To get ahead of the game and rest of the league by putting something together like this, your prospects will instantly see an increase in production which will make the NHL transition that much easier knowing they have a teammate with solid chemistry they can count on. What do you guys think of the idea? :)

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Thanks for putting together this carefully crafted post. I personally think going after someone like Elhers or Perlini instead of domi would be the better choice if we are looking for offense. Valid point though do we know if Max is still growing or has he hit his height cap? Where did Domi gets his points this season?

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As far as the pick for Domi trade, it just depends who's sitting on the board. I have no issue taking someone like Virtanen or Ehlers there. But the question is do we believe one of those guys has more or less potential than Domi. Personally, I love Domi and think he's a great talent and for that reason, I would be willing to do that trade unless someone like Draisaitl or DalColle somehow falls. Now if we did both trades and got that Ottawa pick from the Ducks with Etem, it makes things more interesting, because we could end up with someone like Virtanen anyway, while grabbing a talented player like Domi. I cant see Anaheim moving that pick, but if they do, I like where this is headed.

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Isn't the knock on Domi a lack of elite athleticism (no shortage of talent)?

Thats a risk in a small forward.

I'm looking for elite talent and athleticism or elite talent and size. Should be available at an 8 or 9 pick. You get elite athleticism, talent and size in the top 3. So why trade for Domi...?

As for Etem, how about him, Anaheim's 1st and Theodore?

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Thanks for putting together this carefully crafted post...Valid point though do we know if Max is still growing or has he hit his height cap? Where did Domi gets his points this season?

Np, was just a thought I had and was thinking how brilliant this could be.

As for his height, he still has time to grow as he's just 19. Usually growth spurt stops at age 21 but some people get it a bit later at 23ish. For instance Tanev, he grew all of a sudden so Max, I'm guessing he'll grow a few inches in the next 2 years to 5'10"-5'10.5" and max out there. Even 5'10.5" wouldn't be too bad...Crosby and most NHLers are 5'11" so that's not off by much. His points he got from everywhere from PP to even strength. Playing alongside Horvat and with other players at times, just clicked wherever he was placed. Magical season.

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I'd do the second one but the first one isn't worth it. I like a few of the 7-10 picks more than Domi. I like the combination of skill and size in this drafts top ten. Although, I do like the chemistry theme in your proposal, though I'm not sure that just because these players played together they have chemistry.

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I'd rather get dmen. Our best defensive prospect not named Tanev is Corrado. Thats not a knock on Corrado, he's a good player, but he's not a top 2 dman. If Fleury is still on the board, I'd love for the Canucks to take him. Big mobile defender, sort of like an Edler replacement.

Position: Defence Height: 6'2" Weight: 207 lbs.

2013-14 Statistics

Team GP G A PTS +/-

Red Deer 70 8 38 46 +15

TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button:

Haydn's an excellent skater who uses it to his advantage very well. He's a smart defender who will transition the puck but is a real steady force on the blue line who steps up when it matters.

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No thanks to Domi, I'd rather draft someone. Even if we didn't like someone in the range we have to pick, I'd rather trade up (or even down) than do a one for one on Domi.

As far as the Kesler deal, everything in that depends on if he actually does want out (which it doesn't seem he does) and if so, what the best offer we can get for him is. Etem and Ottawa's first is ok, but I think he should be able to bring back better value than that. We certainly wouldn't ask him to waive his NTC if he hasn't already for that return.

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I'd rather get dmen. Our best defensive prospect not named Tanev is Corrado. Thats not a knock on Corrado, he's a good player, but he's not a top 2 dman. If Fleury is still on the board, I'd love for the Canucks to take him. Big mobile defender, sort of like an Edler replacement.

Position: Defence Height: 6'2" Weight: 207 lbs.

2013-14 Statistics

Team GP G A PTS +/-

Red Deer 70 8 38 46 +15

TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button:

Haydn's an excellent skater who uses it to his advantage very well. He's a smart defender who will transition the puck but is a real steady force on the blue line who steps up when it matters.

Haydn's a good choice but I'd like to pick up DeAngelo around the 14th overall range, He's pure offensive puck moving dman and reminds me of Karlsson. He'd need some time to put some weight on but we could possibly trade down, and pick up another prospect.

Either way I do think this team needs to future help on the point.

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As tempting as fleury is I think we should wait to 2015 to draft a decent d-man and draft a offensively minded forward or deal the pick like in the suggested phoenix deal. Definitely more choice for a premier d prospect instead of hoping one of the only two good d-men in this draft slides to us. in the meantime we could supplant our d prospect depth with a guy like Alexis Vanier in rounds 2-3 and maybe one or two more in the later rounds.

or hope that a kesler/edler return nets a top flight d prospect like shea theodore

hoping that anaheim deal happens it would help alot even though we would probably need to give up a little more to make it happen

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Isn't the knock on Domi a lack of elite athleticism (no shortage of talent)?

Thats a risk in a small forward.

I'm looking for elite talent and athleticism or elite talent and size. Should be available at an 8 or 9 pick. You get elite athleticism, talent and size in the top 3. So why trade for Domi...?

As for Etem, how about him, Anaheim's 1st and Theodore?

I think it's more selfish attitude than athleticism cause he does have some pretty high end athletic ability.

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When i was 16 i was 5'4 140 pounds when i was in 17 i was 5'9 150 18 yrs old twelve 6'2 165 20 yrs old 6'4 175

now 37 yrs old 6'4 234 some people are late bloomers ten inches in 2 yrs was a pretty crazy grow spurt.

To bad i wasnt 234 when i was 16 wasnt fun getting hit in corners by a player hundred pounds bigger fml

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Trade Kesler to Anaheim for Ottawa first at least .

Trade Edler to Detroit for Mantha at least.

Draft Ritchie and Tuch.

Ritchie Horvat Tuch

If we finish near the bottom next year then draft the franchise centreman to play between Mantha and Shinkaruk /Jensen.

Big top six that can Score.

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I'd personally rather have Ehlers than Domi, I'm just not that high on him. As for the proposal, I like it. If we were able to walk out of the draft with both Ehlers and Ritchie I'd be a happy, happy man. Etem is also an intriguing prospect, he certainly has the tools.

Ehlers - 2015 draft pick - Kassian

Shinkaruk - Horvat - Etem

Jensen - Gaunce - Ritchie

is certainly a forward core I'd love to build around.

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