higgyfan Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 So what do you guys think? Will the new GM feel obligated to validate these contracts or will he move them.Before anyone says a player can just say no, think about how uncomfortable a situation like this would be. Some of the guys may want to leave anyways.I'm thinking some of our vets are concerned today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Who is the new GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 The new GM should have a sit down with these players and discuss the obvious state of the team. Since neither the player or the GM have an attachment to one another it shouldn't be a problem discussing it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silfverberg Snipes Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakattack92 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 He can always ask, but as you stated the player has the option. That's what it will come down to. The new GM can go to say kesler and ask him to waive his no trade but in the end kesler can say no and the new GM will have to honour it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 He has no choice. It's part of their contract. The new GM may have a different philosophy on asking players to waive their NTC, but he has no choice as far as honouring them as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I think we'll find out once we have the new GM no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Who is the new GM?I can see why you have such a high post count... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Honor - yes, why wouldn't you? But take all aspects into consideration before making decisions one way or the other. And when the NTC is made, it doesn't ask for honor, it has facts & restrictions written on it in back and white. So it would be foolish to come in and not make wise decisions based upon the right strategy. Once one has been established. Witch may take a good while even after a new GM is appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Depending on how tight the Canucks locker room is, there may be one or two NTC players that want to go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 They should be concerned. The core is rotten at least two have to go, hansen before his ntc kicks in for sure hes ineffective with hands of stone plus time for younger player to take his spot kenins was amazing in olympics with at 2 yr cntract at 680k almost cheaper and more upside. I like kesler so keep him unless team offers a huge package. Bieska should be our captain. Garrison amd hamhuis are great value for their performance. Edler needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 A good way to get a player to waive his ntc is give him 4 minutes a game on the 4th line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Considering it just got MG fired I doubt anyone will come in and continue to let this mess continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Who is the new GM? Kinda an important question to know the answer to before we can tell what the new GM will or will not do... He has no choice. It's part of their contract. The new GM may have a different philosophy on asking players to waive their NTC, but he has no choice as far as honouring them as they are. Although technically this. I'll go with all the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Depends on what you mean by "honouring" the NTCs.As noted above, in terms of contract law, he has no choice and must honour the terms of any SPC signed by the Vancouver Canucks.But in terms of the "spirit" of these NTCs, a new GM has little reason to feel handcuffed to any agreement signed by his predecessor. If the new GM feels that he can improve the team by moving out players on NTCs, he will approach them and ask them to waive the clauses.If he feels strongly about moving a certain player with an NTC, he can use a number of tactics and options to force the issue.However, given what's been happening with this team, and the regime change in process, I'd imagine that most players would put-up very little fight if they were asked to waive their clauses. That's not saying that the players necessarily would welcome a move but just that most players will agree to be moved if it's made clear to them that they are no longer wanted on the team.An NTC guarantees the player the right to choose his list of preferred locations and to veto any move that he doesn't like.For the players on this team who have value, if it's determined (and made clear to the player) that the new GM doesn't want them here, it won't be too hard to find other teams where they'd agree to move and other GMs who would welcome their services.The same thing goes for the final compliance buyout. Under Gillis, it was probably only Booth who was being considered (and even that wasn't certain).Under a new GM, Booth's probably gained some company on the list of players who could potentially be bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterHorvatBure Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 He has no choice. It's part of their contract. The new GM may have a different philosophy on asking players to waive their NTC, but he has no choice as far as honouring them as they are. Actually a new GM has the flexibility to move 2 forwards with NTC's and a defensemen. Not sure if I'm right man, just stating something that I read before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 While it might not stop a player from waiving for a new GM, it could certainly limit the GMs options on where to trade them so he could maximize value. If we don't bring in an established GM, others might look to take advantage and try and steal a player for good value. Not a good way to start your tenure in Vancouver if that's what happens. Actually a new GM has the flexibility to move 2 forwards with NTC's and a defensemen. Pray tell, what clause in the legally binding SPCs of the players gives a new GM the right to trade a given number of NTCs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterHorvatBure Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 While it might not stop a player from waiving for a new GM, it could certainly limit the GMs options on where to trade them so he could maximize value. If we don't bring in an established GM, others might look to take advantage and try and steal a player for good value. Not a good way to start your tenure in Vancouver if that's what happens. Pray tell, what clause in the legally binding SPCs of the players gives a new GM the right to trade a given number of NTCs? Just edited I read it somewhere ! Guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Players didn't sign contracts with a GM, they signed them with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAce Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 First call the new GM should be making is to Edler and find out what teams he'd be willing to be traded to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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