subway Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 With all this talk about Torts being fired, I started to wonder about other NHL coaches that were fired just after one season. Can anyone think of anyone other than Kruger from the Oilers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Firing a coach after one season is the stupidest hockey move one can make. Look at the Oilers. Has it benefited them? As for firing Torts, its also a pretty ridiculous idea but nonetheless we shouldn't give the players a free get out of jail card. They're multi million dollar professional athletes, they should be able to play under any circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Firing a coach after one season is the stupidest hockey move one can make. What if a team has simply hired the wrong guy? Wouldn't it be more stupid to keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I don't think Don Hay even made it through one season with Calgary. Ditto for Ron Rolston in Buffalo. Hell, Barry Melrose lasted what, 10 days in Tampa? Torts future has a lot to do with which GM is selected. If Jay Feaster is selected, Torts probably isn't going anywhere. Not that I think Linden would be dumb enough to make that selection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What if a team has simply hired the wrong guy? Wouldn't it be more stupid to keep him? Especially since a new GM can have a different vision and want a different coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Muzzin Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Laviolette got fired 3 games into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Torts was given nothing to work with. Obviously changes are coming this off season. Lets see what they are and give Torts the first part of the season. If the team still craps the bed, get rid of him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 If Jay Feaster is selected, Torts probably isn't going anywhere. Not that I think Linden would be dumb enough to make that selection... Lool, Nucks ARE NOT getting Feaster no matter what! Even if the next best guy was a guy on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Dumber to hold onto a coach that isn't the right fit, than to admit the mistake and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Dumber to hold onto a coach that isn't the right fit, than to admit the mistake and move on. Maybe it's not the coach that needs changing, but rather the core. The core has been around since the start of the downwards spiral in 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbanks Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 the bone head plays,losing 90% of puck battles down low and on the boards , weak clearing attempts , bad passes, losing 90% of the races to loose pucks ect... all things this team is guilty of and none of that comes from a system a coach puts in.... just pure lack of execution of fundamental hockey from the players.there was a shift tonight where there was 4 different puck battles in our end and canucks had the avs out numbers in each scrum and the avs came out with the puck all 4 times.... and that has been happening all year thats just a case of who wants it more and our guys didnt want it all year..and it was the same case last year as well so i have a hard time believing its the Coachs fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 At least we dont have rick ley coaching us man he was bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Maybe it's not the coach that needs changing, but rather the core. The core has been around since the start of the downwards spiral in 2011 Well that's something Linden is gonna have to determine. Either way, we're not getting rid of the entire core anytime soon. So if the Tortorella can't coach these guys he'll be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ya i think we need to unload some players Edler, hansen, higgins, hamhuis, booth, burrows all could be traded for picks prospects and new roster players, they are all to comfy here, they need a fire lit under there asses. Id rather go with rookies and lose that way than no heart. Its definately not the coaches or goalies fault. Edler is awful not sure how hes not been benched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Maybe it's not the coach that needs changing, but rather the core. The core has been around since the start of the downwards spiral in 2011 You have a valid point, yet it is still up to the coach to adapt to his team, not the other way around IF the system he is tring to implement isn't working. Christ, this forum ripped AV to shreds for being outcoached and steadfast in his system and rotating lines. I'm not sure which side you are on, and not asking you to clarify, but something is broken and it is up to the coach to figure out why that is. This anomaly of a season relative to injuries may be the only thing that saves Torts from being fired this offseason, unless of course his system is blamed for causing an unnecessary amount of them. Question for all people who want Torts gone: What did you think of the way the team played in December. Wins aside, it was also pretty exciting hockey. I tend to agree with some of the other posters on the board who see the defensive transition game as a major hindrance to generating offense on the rush. If that doesn't change then our puck possession style of play is not off to a strong start before the rush has even begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Bill LaForge.20 games..another Canuck mistake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ya i think we need to unload some players Edler, hansen, higgins, hamhuis, booth, burrows all could be traded for picks prospects and new roster players, they are all to comfy here, they need a fire lit under there asses. Id rather go with rookies and lose that way than no heart. Its definately not the coaches or goalies fault. Edler is awful not sure how hes not been benched What the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure010 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Laviolette got fired 3 games into the season. yes, but that wasn't his first year he became coach in philly in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 You have a valid point, yet it is still up to the coach to adapt to his team, not the other way around IF the system he is tring to implement isn't working. Christ, this forum ripped AV to shreds for being outcoached and steadfast in his system and rotating lines. I'm not sure which side you are on, and not asking you to clarify, but something is broken and it is up to the coach to figure out why that is. This anomaly of a season relative to injuries may be the only thing that saves Torts from being fired this offseason, unless of course his system is blamed for causing an unnecessary amount of them. Question for all people who want Torts gone: What did you think of the way the team played in December. Wins aside, it was also pretty exciting hockey. I tend to agree with some of the other posters on the board who see the defensive transition game as a major hindrance to generating offense on the rush. If that doesn't change then our puck possession style of play is not off to a strong start before the rush has even begun. My point is that maybe the team just isn't good enough, as in the players on the ice. It isn't just bad luck that we've fallen since 2011 even with AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 . Question for all people who want Torts gone: What did you think of the way the team played in December. Wins aside, it was also pretty exciting hockey. .I don't think Linden will like the way Tortorella treats the players (even just what we see on TV is pretty bad) and will work with his new GM to pick a new coach.So I qualify for your question and of course it was great in December, and I believe the team needs to be tougher and "stiffer" and stick up for one another.Torts got them started on that and that will remain an objective for some time yet, I fear. And, back to the wins, they were playing under Torts & Company successfully.I just hope the owners are ok eating all that cash to improve the team because a new coach could develop team toughness and win more games without the drama and condescension.Good post and I agree with your comment on canuktravella's trade all the ntc players for picks plan, what th'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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