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John Tortorella has completely ruined his tenure in Vancouver. The partnership between he and Mike Gillis turned out to be lethal (in a negative manner) and almost put this team back into the pre-crawford era. After listening to Tortorella's post-season interview and the amount of times he blamed things on the players and not his inability to realize he was pushing the wrong system, I have never been more sure that Tortorella needs a one way ticket out of Vancouver. There are plenty of markets that might like a coach like Torts, If Claude Julien ever leaves Boston I am sure they would love to have him and if Daryl Sutter exits LA before Tortorella is using a walker than I am sure they would love to have him but the reality is that he is not a coach that is primed for heading a skill-oriented and puck possession style. So, I think the Tortorella experiment needs to be cut short. With MG gone nobody on the Canucks will have to eat crow for the hiring they can just blame it on MG (whether it was his fault or not, since that is the nature of the hockey world).

Instead of going out and hiring a washed up, overused or recycled coach my suggestion would be to offer Jeff Blashill a contract with the Vancouver Canucks. He comes from the premier organization in the league and possibly in professional sports and he has a fresh perspective, something that hockey fans don't often think about, at least not on CDC. He would be the perfect coach for Vancouver, he has experience in dealing with difficult prospect development situations (the amount of roster turnover in his last two years is pretty insane judging his team's collective record), and he is groomed to coach a skill oriented game, something that can play to the strengths of the Canucks roster in returning the Sedins, Kesler, Burrows and Edler back to their elite status'.

Finally, with the firing of John Tortorella and the very exciting hiring of Jeff Blashill, people in Vancouver can stop talking about moving players like Kesler and Edler. We have a core of players as good as any in the league, they just need to be playing in the right system, something that AV understood.

Last but not least. CDC needs to relax about shutting down threads without tags. What is this, Turkey?

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You're right. The name does say it all, and your response pretty much sums up the collective hockey ignorance of the majority of the Canucks fan-base. Hello.

Danielson is pretty even keeled. You on the other hand are talking like a lunatic.
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John Tortorella has completely ruined his tenure in Vancouver. The partnership between he and Mike Gillis turned out to be lethal (in a negative manner) and almost put this team back into the pre-crawford era. After listening to Tortorella's post-season interview and the amount of times he blamed things on the players and not his inability to realize he was pushing the wrong system, I have never been more sure that Tortorella needs a one way ticket out of Vancouver. There are plenty of markets that might like a coach like Torts, If Claude Julien ever leaves Boston I am sure they would love to have him and if Daryl Sutter exits LA before Tortorella is using a walker than I am sure they would love to have him but the reality is that he is not a coach that is primed for heading a skill-oriented and puck possession style. So, I think the Tortorella experiment needs to be cut short. With MG gone nobody on the Canucks will have to eat crow for the hiring they can just blame it on MG (whether it was his fault or not, since that is the nature of the hockey world).

Instead of going out and hiring a washed up, overused or recycled coach my suggestion would be to offer Jeff Blashill a contract with the Vancouver Canucks. He comes from the premier organization in the league and possibly in professional sports and he has a fresh perspective, something that hockey fans don't often think about, at least not on CDC. He would be the perfect coach for Vancouver, he has experience in dealing with difficult prospect development situations (the amount of roster turnover in his last two years is pretty insane judging his team's collective record), and he is groomed to coach a skill oriented game, something that can play to the strengths of the Canucks roster in returning the Sedins, Kesler, Burrows and Edler back to their elite status'.

Finally, with the firing of John Tortorella and the very exciting hiring of Jeff Blashill, people in Vancouver can stop talking about moving players like Kesler and Edler. We have a core of players as good as any in the league, they just need to be playing in the right system, something that AV understood.

Last but not least. CDC needs to relax about shutting down threads without tags. What is this, Turkey?

Hey I also read that book:

How To Not Win a Cup for Dummies.

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Hey I also read that book:

How To Not Win a Cup for Dummies

Since you are so confident in my theory not being cup worthy why don't you enlighten us all, or better yet let me guess: Keep Tortorella, trade the Sedins, Edler and Kesler and Put Burrows on the 4th line where he "belongs". Get Callahan, Moulson and promote Horvat, Shinkaruk and Gaunce to full time duty next season and begin our rebuild.... Because that will win us a cup.

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It's tragic people learn to type but have no grasp on the topic they are typing. You essentially vomitted on your keyboard and decided "hey why not?"

Right, because your response added so much to the conversation, why don't you gift us all with your impeccable plan for the team. Would it include the hiring of the dinosaur Jay Feaster and the continuation of the embarrassing Tortorella regime?

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Finally, with the firing of John Tortorella and the very exciting hiring of Jeff Blashill, people in Vancouver can stop talking about moving players like Kesler and Edler.

I think most people in Vancouver would be asking each other who Jeff Blashill even is. I doubt most people know the names of the current AHL coaches.

We have a core of players as good as any in the league, they just need to be playing in the right system, something that AV understood.

Then how does that explain 2012 and 2013. Both years we had the same core and AV and still didn't succeed. Now you think the same core plus an AV type system when the core is even older will propel our team to elite status?

This team does need an infusion of youth. Not necessarily Horvat, Shink, and Gaunce full time all at once, but maybe just Jensen and Corrado for a full season plus a shake up of the core.

People want to trade Edler not because he'll give us a good return, but because he's a detriment to the team. He had the worst +/- in the league and I know that that stat doesn't tell the whole story, but we saw his blunders with our own eyes. He isn't even scoring to compensate for his shoddy defensive play anymore.

Lastly, your attitude is a large part of why people aren't considering your proposal. The way you respond is condescending and makes you seem like a bit of an asshole. Don't put words in other people's mouths, assuming what they think based just on the fact that they don't agree with you, and maybe you'll actually get somewhere with your proposal.

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Last but not least. CDC needs to relax about shutting down threads without tags. What is this, Turkey?

What would be easier: for the mods to not lock threads or for you to read and understand the board rules before posting?

There's a reason tags are required in the proposals forum (and the trades, rumours and signings forum for that matter). Once you've seen a thread that you think is an actual trade and the panic it causes it all makes sense. Imagine a thread in the proposals forum titled "Kesler to Anaheim" leading up to the draft for instance.

BTW, you do know you can PM a mod to reopen a thread for you if you promise to add the tags correctly? You don't have to recreate it, although that's not much of an issue.

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Right, because your response added so much to the conversation, why don't you gift us all with your impeccable plan for the team. Would it include the hiring of the dinosaur Jay Feaster and the continuation of the embarrassing Tortorella regime?

The only thing embarassing about this team is fans like yourself. Continue to vomit garbage around like it's fact but don't expect too many people to respond positively to it.
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This is a tremendous idea. The guy deserves an interview and serious consideration. I recall Linden mentioned the Detroit Red Wings as an organization he would like to emulate. No time like today to begin. Canucks don't need a recycled coach. We have been there done that. I say Blashill deserves an interview. If he falls into Linden's vision for the GM/Coaching staff. Let's go with it.

What most Canuck fans don't get is that we had a great team. WEe were in the playoffs every year. Just need to keep knocking at the door. This is how the Wings have done it. The Penguins and Blackhawks are following suit. MG just got desparate and made a really bad hire. Should have kept a steady course. We'd have been in the playoffs again and knocking at the door.

A good organization is not boom or bust. It has a consistent style on which it builds. Staff and player changes are planned and carried out over the years. Blashill is a guy who can fit into this mold. If there is a potential Bancock out there, I say it is Bashill. Give him a shot.

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I'm tired of this garbage opinion from un-educated posters. The guy is coaching a compeletly mismanaged team with zero skill that's too old and stagnant and gets a huge amount of injuries and you're going to blame the system.

Real smart. Thank God we have Torts who finally isn't afraid to tell the truth. At least that's something and good for him calling out Gillis earlier in the year too. Not the first coach to wonder about the lack of talent and goal scoring.

Some people seem to think you could grab a junior team, a good coach, and win the cup. :picard:

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John Tortorella has completely ruined his tenure in Vancouver. The partnership between he and Mike Gillis turned out to be lethal (in a negative manner) and almost put this team back into the pre-crawford era. After listening to Tortorella's post-season interview and the amount of times he blamed things on the players and not his inability to realize he was pushing the wrong system, I have never been more sure that Tortorella needs a one way ticket out of Vancouver. There are plenty of markets that might like a coach like Torts, If Claude Julien ever leaves Boston I am sure they would love to have him and if Daryl Sutter exits LA before Tortorella is using a walker than I am sure they would love to have him but the reality is that he is not a coach that is primed for heading a skill-oriented and puck possession style. So, I think the Tortorella experiment needs to be cut short. With MG gone nobody on the Canucks will have to eat crow for the hiring they can just blame it on MG (whether it was his fault or not, since that is the nature of the hockey world).

Instead of going out and hiring a washed up, overused or recycled coach my suggestion would be to offer Jeff Blashill a contract with the Vancouver Canucks. He comes from the premier organization in the league and possibly in professional sports and he has a fresh perspective, something that hockey fans don't often think about, at least not on CDC. He would be the perfect coach for Vancouver, he has experience in dealing with difficult prospect development situations (the amount of roster turnover in his last two years is pretty insane judging his team's collective record), and he is groomed to coach a skill oriented game, something that can play to the strengths of the Canucks roster in returning the Sedins, Kesler, Burrows and Edler back to their elite status'.

Finally, with the firing of John Tortorella and the very exciting hiring of Jeff Blashill, people in Vancouver can stop talking about moving players like Kesler and Edler. We have a core of players as good as any in the league, they just need to be playing in the right system, something that AV understood.

Last but not least. CDC needs to relax about shutting down threads without tags. What is this, Turkey?

First of all, you'd run out of fingers and toes if counting the amount of times Torts has been accountable and directs blame towards himself but what is unreasonable is people like you putting the entire blame on him. But it seems with so many it has to be black and white - 100% Torts or 0% Torts to blame.

Torts blamed the players? I'm pretty sure sure he said (and I quote) "not their fault"...when he says the team needs youth, people talk about how he didn't play guys like Dalpe and Schroeder but he is probably referring to youth that can be built around in the future and take over for the new core.

Wrong system? Can you enlighten us as to what is Torts' system (and I sure hope you're not going to bring that Glenn Healey crap).

You say he is not suited to a puck-possession skilled game, yet through 40 games, there the Canucks were, out-playing and out-shooting their opponents with an aggressive, offensive style with a healthy lineup.

Are you really suggesting that that the Canucks had enough depth to absorb those injuries?

Then you went on to suggest that AV knew what he was doing with the team yet they won one playoff game in two years and got bounced in four straight last year. But you've also made your love of AV as well as your hatred of Tortorella rather clear in previous posts so I just think you're on tilt.

Torts may stay or he may go but to suggest the entire season is his doing is ridiculous. I'm not sure many other coaches would also be too excited about Hansen and Higgins having prominent top6 roles on the team.

You don't set yourself up well when you offer your opinion and then proceed to imply that everyone except you is clueless about hockey (including the coach and GM).

Weren't you the one who suggested that the Canucks trade Garrison and Santorelli to FLA (after that organization essentially turned their backs on both)? I think FLA would reply with something like that is insulting and he'd be run out of town...if you know what I mean.

Blashill is a solid coaching prospect but he was sent down from the NHL to coach the AHL after being an assistant coach with the Wings and losing that job to Tom Renney.

If a coaching change is made I'd personally, probably prefer someone like John Stevens.

Having said that, I have no problem with giving Torts another shot because he has shown he can get this team to dominate, even in games they lose. They just need to add offense and allow guys like Higgins and Hansen to play to their suited 3rd line roles and this will drop other guys even further and all of a sudden no problem rolling four lines.

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I'm tired of this garbage opinion from un-educated posters. The guy is coaching a compeletly mismanaged team with zero skill that's too old and stagnant and gets a huge amount of injuries and you're going to blame the system.

Real smart. Thank God we have Torts who finally isn't afraid to tell the truth. At least that's something and good for him calling out Gillis earlier in the year too. Not the first coach to wonder about the lack of talent and goal scoring.

Some people seem to think you could grab a junior team, a good coach, and win the cup. :picard:

You don't get it. The Rangers fired Torts for a reason. We have the same reason. Watch Torts post season interview. Not one word of personal responsibility. The best he could do was it was my fault because I didn't teach the palyers. (These players are way too skilled for Torts dumb down style. Like teaching formula one driver to play with bumper cars) No thanks.

The fantasy that the canucks were doing well in first half of season is just that. Remeber the lbizzare lines. kessler on the wing. The idiotic "block shots: comments. Remeber according to Torts we were going to be tough because the Sedins were going to block shots, Sounds like minor hocket drivel to me.

Linden was a claa act on the ice and off. Chasing the opposing counsel into the locker room looking for a fight is not a class act even in major junior let alone the NHL.

But the biggest problem is that Torts is in way over his head. He does not have the skill to coach this team. Mike Babcock had at least as many injuries if not more. As I recall he beat the season series with Boston.

So my friend you really need to reevaluate. Recycled medicrity is no way to go forward. The best predictor of future performance is past performance. I assume you belive that a young dynamic player with good skills and a passion for winning could make a difference. Why wouldn't a young coach with the same atrributes be a good idea as well.

Hdere take a quick look at Bylsma bio. Need to do a little research and then think a bit before you express yourself. This lack of forethought has been Torts downfall why follow HIS LEAD.

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