tebeaune Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Kesler for NYI 5th overall pick plus Strome (or Bailey) The Islanders could use some leadership and experience to support Tavares and I think Kesler may relish that role on an up and coming good young team. It gets him to a US market out of the spotlight. He slots in behind Tavares and gives them an established 2 way center. We receive the #5 pick to pick another forward slated to go in the top five(Take your pick)and Strome (or Bailey but I would add to get Strome). (Take your pick) Edler plus (if required) for Florida's 1st overall pick. We pick Ekblad they get an experienced top four defenceman in Edler plus if required. Edler takes the opportunity to get out of the spotlight that is Vancouver and gets a fresh start. Ekblad is that right handed potential franchise defenceman and our defensive depth isn't really impacted based on Edler's play recently. We end up with three top six picks - 1st overall pick (Ekblad or Reinhart I prefer Ekblad), 5 and 6. Plus Strome (or Bailey). We get younger and deeper (mini re-build) and we also free up some much needed cap space. Kesler is replaced preferably by Strome and Santorelli is re-signed for depth. Just dreaming...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Kesler for NYI 5th overall pick plus either Bailey or Strome(preferably Strome) The Islanders could use some leadership and experience to support Tavares and I think Kesler may relsih that role on an up and coming good young team. It gets him to a US market out of the spotlight. He slots in behind Tavares and gives them an established 2 way center. We receive the fifth to pick another forward slated to go in the top five. (Take your pick) Edler plus (if required) for Florida's 1st overall pick. We pick Ekblad they get an experienced top four defenceman in Edler plus if required. Edler takes the opportunity to get out of the spotlight that is Vancouver and gets a fresh start. Ekblad is that right handed potential franchise defenceman and our defensive depth isn't really impacted based on Edler's play recently. We end up with three top six picks - 1st overall pick (Ekblad or Reinhart I prefer Ekblad), 5 and 6. Plus Strome or Bailey. We get younger and deeper (mini re-build) and we also free up some much needed cap space. Kesler is replaced preferably by Strome and Santorelli is re-signed for depth. Just dreaming...... Just dreaming is right. It would have to be Kesler ++ for just the 5th. Florida isn't giving up the 1st overall for anything the Canucks have, let alone just Edler. Edler never has been and never will be worth a 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Kesler ++ for the 5th alone....really? Come on man. You know Kesler alone is worth more than just the 5th overall to a team that NEEDS to be competitive To the OP NTC...for both players. Tallon does not eat Edler for that 1st overall when he could just laugh his butt off all the way to the draft where he is still wiping tears from his eyes as he drafts Ekblad. Kesler to NYI is more than feasible but would he waive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Just dreaming is right. It would have to be Kesler ++ for just the 5th. Florida isn't giving up the 1st overall for anything the Canucks have, let alone just Edler. Edler never has been and never will be worth a 1st overall. While I agree it's a lot of dreaming...Kesler ++ to move up one spot is also completely ridiculous on your end too. Ever since the invention of the internet and the ability to get up to date information on prospects, all prospects have become absurdly over-rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebeaune Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Your serious, Kesler plus wont gaet a 5th overall pick. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tebeaune Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014   Kesler ++ for the 5th alone....really? Come on man. You know Kesler alone is worth more than just the 5th overall to a team that NEEDS to be competitive To the OP NTC...for both players. Tallon does not eat Edler for that 1st overall when he could just laugh his butt off all the way to the draft where he is still wiping tears from his eyes as he drafts Ekblad. Kesler to NYI is more than feasible but would he waive  Thanks for the respectful response. I know Kelser would have to buy in and accept the trade. But I beleive he may do so to play the role of leader on an up and coming young team that is poised (finally) for some success. He gets out of Dodge, goes to a US city, possibly gets the "C" and looks like a hero if they make the post season next year plus he may help them sell tickets. I believe Kesler plus gets us the #5 pick and possibly Strome or Bailey. Edler would need to be sweetened to get the #1 (including our #6). But I would push hard to put a good package together and potentially eat a bit of the salary if need be. Again, wishful thinking but boy would it remake this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Edler likely won't even get a 1st rounder anymore let alone a 1st overall. For Kes we could probably get either the 5th overall or Strome, but not both. And both players say no anyways as they have NTCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Kesler ++ for the 5th alone....really? Come on man. You know Kesler alone is worth more than just the 5th overall to a team that NEEDS to be competitive To the OP NTC...for both players. Tallon does not eat Edler for that 1st overall when he could just laugh his butt off all the way to the draft where he is still wiping tears from his eyes as he drafts Ekblad. Kesler to NYI is more than feasible but would he waive While I agree it's a lot of dreaming...Kesler ++ to move up one spot is also completely ridiculous on your end too. Ever since the invention of the internet and the ability to get up to date information on prospects, all prospects have become absurdly over-rated. I wouldn't try to do Kesler for the 5th because to lose Kesler to move up one spot isn't really necessary. However, based on what was offered for Kes at the deadline: Etem and a pick or two (could have been Ottawa's pick) from Anaheim or Sutter, 2014 1st, 2014 3rd, and a prospect from Pittsburgh I can't see that Kesler is definitively valued on par with a 5th overall pick by the other GM's in the league. A top 10 pick plus a prospect or a lower first rounder plus a couple prospects seems to be the going rate. That's why I figure it would have to be Kesler plus another piece (not a whole lot more, maybe ++ construed the wrong idea of how much I meant) would be needed for the 5th pick. That's without Strome or anyone else coming back from NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebeaune Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 I wouldn't try to do Kesler for the 5th because to lose Kesler to move up one spot isn't really necessary. However, based on what was offered for Kes at the deadline: Etem and a pick or two (could have been Ottawa's pick) from Anaheim or Sutter, 2014 1st, 2014 3rd, and a prospect from Pittsburgh I can't see that Kesler is definitively valued on par with a 5th overall pick by the other GM's in the league. A top 10 pick plus a prospect or a lower first rounder plus a couple prospects seems to be the going rate. That's why I figure it would have to be Kesler plus another piece (not a whole lot more, maybe ++ construed the wrong idea of how much I meant) would be needed for the 5th pick. That's without Strome or anyone else coming back from NY. I beleive you under value Kesler to a team that already has a young core and is a piece or two from making the post season, like the NYI. How does a #5 pick give them the intangibles they are missing? (solid two way experienced proven NHL Center who isnt past 30 and can take the defensive responsibilities and important face offs - these guys aren't overly abundant and their hard to develop) The #5 pick gives them another young player who may or may not pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiangunner Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Both teams hang up"More realistic - 1).Kesler to pens for pouillet, 1st, and bennet2). Edler crying and saying no he wont go anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebeaune Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Both teams hang up" More realistic - 1).Kesler to pens for pouillet, 1st, and bennet 2). Edler crying and saying no he wont go anywhere! Haha.So the NYI hang up over the 5th overall pick and they desperately need some leadership an experienced proven two way NHL center to help Tavares carry the load. Plus Kesler probly gets them into the playoffs. But Pittsburgh gives up essentially 3 first rounders and this is more realistic? Please explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Edler for the first overall? I need some booze quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 The Edler trade won't work. But Kesler with tweeks could. To NYI Kesler 3rd round 2014 To Van 5th overall Strome This give NYI a two way presence and experience to start competing. I think Kesler would be amazing in east. For Canucks this give use the 5th and 6th pick which if Calgary or anyone goes off the board, two top 5 picks. And we get a great young center for us. Sedin Sedin Burrows Santorelli Strome Kassian Higgins Mattias Hansen Sestito Richardson Archibald If Horvat is a go at training camp that means Sedin Sedin Burrows Horvat Strome Kassian Higgins Santorelli Hansen Sestito/Archie Richardson Mattias Or Sedin Sedin Burrows Santorelli Strome Kassian Higgins Horvat Hansen ( triple H line) Sestito/Archie Richardson Mattias This disperses our youth through multiple lines with veterans insulating them. If Jensen is good to go. Sedin Sedin Jensen Santorelli Strome Kassian Higgins Horvat Burrows Mattias Richardson Hansen Or Sedin Sedin Burrows Jensen Strome Kassian Higgins Horvat Santorelli Mattias Richardson Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'd do both, but I don't know that the Isles or Panthers do. Certainly not the Panthers since they could just draft Ekblad instead and bring him in over the next couple years, and the Isles might be more willing to keep Strome and draft Dal Colle for their top 6 wing. Whether Kesler would waive to the Isles if he does want a trade is questionable, and I doubt Edler waives for Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Kesler won't get the 5th overall pick. And I don't want Strome anyways. We need a package not one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 It is embarrassing how underrated Strome is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 LOL. Trades are so bias.... Florida will beat the crap outta you if u offer Edler for the 1st overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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