JeremyCuddles Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Is Vancouver and Colorado good trading partners for Kesler? Well with Colorado being eliminated I think it's fair to say they need veteran help down the middle. To Colorado: Kesler To Vancouver: PA Parenteau 2015 1st Round pick 2015 2nd Round pick (?) We get a pick in a deeper draft with some immediate help on the wing, because most of their prospects not on their roster are yucky. Kesler gives them a veteran presence they are clearly lacking in the playoffs. Him and RoR can play wing or centre. Although they may need to throw in a 2nd rounder to balance it out more. I figured I'd edit in a more serious Proposal. To Colorado: Edler (won't waive but dreamers can dream) To Vancouver: Parenteau(?) or a 2015 1st and maybe 3rd. We need a winger that isn't a 3rd line tweener. Kassian I don't know how ready he is and I'd like to see a Richardson Higgins Santo 3rd line. Give Kes a noteworthy winger and put Burr back on his natural wing. Maybe depending on their cap we pick up some picks instead and go FA for a winger for Kes. Permitted we keep him. Edler or Garrison need to go. Tanev and Bieksa can be our top 4 RW with Hammer and Garrison or Edler as top 4 LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Avs centers: Mac, ROR, Stasny, Duche, Mitchell, Talbot... I don't think they need another center. They need dmen. When Barrie got hurt, they got screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 No lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 this is getting old quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 No. Don't want Kesler and that ego anywhere near this team. Have no real need for him anyways especially is Stastny is retained. Willing to part with any combo of picks, prospects not named Bigras, and players not named Landy, Mack, Dutchy, O'Reilly, Barrie, EJ, and Varly for a top 4 D (preferably a left side guy). Has to be a pretty good player for Siemens and McGinn to be on the table though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 As mutch as there deep at centre if they had an expeiriensed guy like Kesler up the middle it would have been enough to beat the wild theres no doubt about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Actually, there's plenty of doubt. In fact, as has already been mentioned, if they'd had better depth/top end talent on D the likelihood of them winning the series would have been much more certain compared to them adding another center (veteran or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Actually, there's plenty of doubt. In fact, as has already been mentioned, if they'd had better depth/top end talent on D the likelihood of them winning the series would have been much more certain compared to them adding another center (veteran or not). But, but. Kesler is perfect for all playoff teams that got eliminated, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 No. Don't want Kesler and that ego anywhere near this team. Have no real need for him anyways especially is Stastny is retained. Willing to part with any combo of picks, prospects not named Bigras, and players not named Landy, Mack, Dutchy, O'Reilly, Barrie, EJ, and Varly for a top 4 D (preferably a left side guy). Has to be a pretty good player for Siemens and McGinn to be on the table though. Seeing how you're an Av's fan, let me as you would the Av's be interested in either Edler or Garrison? I'm pretty sure that their value isn't as low as fans on here make it out to be, would you agree? Also, if yes then what do you think the Av's would be willing to pony up for someone like Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Seeing how you're an Av's fan, let me as you would the Av's be interested in either Edler or Garrison? I'm pretty sure that their value isn't as low as fans on here make it out to be, would you agree? Also, if yes then what do you think the Av's would be willing to pony up for someone like Alex? Stasney and a pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 i dont see the avs as a fit god this is getting so redundent cant we all agree if kes gets moved its to the pens the ducks or maybe philly any deal with the pens starts with pouliot sutter and a 1st the ducks its emerson a pick and gibson philly its schenn (brayden orsimmonds reid and a pick yes those are pretty steep but im hoping for a bidding war as for edler id take detroits pick and mantha or edler to the oilers for there 3rd overall maybe we throw in next years second garrison to the leafs for there 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 i dont see the avs as a fit god this is getting so redundent cant we all agree if kes gets moved its to the pens the ducks or maybe philly any deal with the pens starts with pouliot sutter and a 1st the ducks its emerson a pick and gibson philly its schenn (brayden orsimmonds reid and a pick yes those are pretty steep but im hoping for a bidding war as for edler id take detroits pick and mantha or edler to the oilers for there 3rd overall maybe we throw in next years second garrison to the leafs for there 1st I dunno bout that hes a real good player with lots in dynamics so many teams that were just oustd could of used him and things could of turned out better for them ie tampa dallas detroit avs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Seeing how you're an Av's fan, let me as you would the Av's be interested in either Edler or Garrison? I'm pretty sure that their value isn't as low as fans on here make it out to be, would you agree? Also, if yes then what do you think the Av's would be willing to pony up for someone like Alex? Well given the D we have right now and how much they were exposed in that series, I don't think we can afford not to be. Really depends on the price. Canucks are my #2 team though so I've seen enough of Edler this year to be very wary. The decline has been going on too long for this to be anything but a buying low scenario and hoping Foote can turn him around. His value is probably higher than some around here think (and lower than others) but any dreams of O'Reilly for Edler should be dead and buried. That's partly on Edler's decline but more so on just how good O'Reilly has become. Some combo of picks, prospects and Parenteau or McGinn. That's about all I'd offer for Garrison too. He's a much better defender but doesn't have the potential to become something more like Edler could be if Foote can fix him. If we're going to pay a really high price it better be someone like Ehrhoff (since it's likely Buffalo retains 50%) or Josi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Well given the D we have right now and how much they were exposed in that series, I don't think we can afford not to be. Really depends on the price. Canucks are my #2 team though so I've seen enough of Edler this year to be very wary. The decline has been going on too long for this to be anything but a buying low scenario and hoping Foote can turn him around. His value is probably higher than some around here think (and lower than others) but any dreams of O'Reilly for Edler should be dead and buried. That's partly on Edler's decline but more so on just how good O'Reilly has become. Some combo of picks, prospects and Parenteau or McGinn. That's about all I'd offer for Garrison too. He's a much better defender but doesn't have the potential to become something more like Edler could be if Foote can fix him. If we're going to pay a really high price it better be someone like Ehrhoff (since it's likely Buffalo retains 50%) or Josi. Garrison for Parenteau+ would appeal to me, but why do they want to move him? Burr - Hank - Jensen Danny - Kes - Parenteau Higgins - Matthias - Kassian Archibald - Rich - Booth Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Tanev Stanton - Corrado SIGN ME UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Garrison for Parenteau+ would appeal to me, but why do they want to move him? Burr - Hank - Jensen Danny - Kes - Parenteau Higgins - Matthias - Kassian Archibald - Rich - Booth Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Tanev Stanton - Corrado SIGN ME UP! Well Roy was shopping him this year. That's where the ridiculous rumour of Bourque for Parenteau came from. If Stastny goes then he probably stays. Otherwise (when healthy) there isn't much of a place for him in the top 6 and he's not a 3rd line kind of guy. It will be much easier for use to find a tweener in FA to replace him (and actually fit better on the 3rd line) than to find a top 4 D. The Avs fan in me just can't stand the guy and can't wait to get him off the team but the Canucks fan thinks he's exactly the kind of guy we should be after. Canucks have enough players who have good defensive skills and grit, what they're missing is skilled guys who can score. That's exactly what Parenteau can bring. He's just redundant on the Avs because there are 5 forwards who are unquestionably better and that leaves Parenteau, Tanguay, and McGinn to fight for that spot next to Radar and Dutchy. Not sold on Tanguay in the bottom 6 and he at least brings veteran leadership and cup winning experience and while it may be coincidence we had just an unbelievable record with him in the lineup. I'd love a Parenteau+ for Garrison deal. Interested to know what would need to be added to get a guy like Higgins, Hansen, or Richardson as well. Would love to get some legit bottom six guys to play with Talbot and Malkin. Seeing both McLeod and Cliche on the 3rd line during the playoffs was just gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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